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Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by flomo »

spwa4 wrote: post #73
conradev wrote: post #44

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They’re working on it! And they’re making it open source :) Our goal is to offer a privacy-focused, vendor-neutral alternative to platforms like Microsoft Exchange. https://stalw.art/blog/nlnet-grant-collaboration/

Great, but look at this. This is a joke. Let's see ... the EU funded Microsoft to the tune of 234.26 billion USD per year, and have been funding it for 50 years (starting at 0 of course). How much software does the EU expect to get for "between 5000 and 50000 euro"? (one-time). A software engineer in Bangalore can expect to make more than that, even after tax! The EU got INCREDIBLY lucky after Microsoft's rise. Linux…

You have a great point, but discussing 'Linux' misses the forest for the trees. American vendors had solutions, European vendors did not. Because you are correct and Europeans don't really value software.

('Linux distros' get into the HN zone where nobody needs dropbox because they could write a shell script. Or install a crappy webmail package on a VPS. Google is entirely Linux and that's not what you are suggesting. It's irrelevant to the larger picture.)

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by netsharc »

krapp wrote: post #145
Atlas667 wrote: post #109

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What "Epstein/Israel/Trump blackmail conspiracy?" It's already known that Trump is in the Epstein files. He's already admitted to sexual assault, has been found liable of sexual abuse and is a convicted felon. He's one of the most openly venal and corrupt Presidents in history. There's literally nothing Israel could have on him that would surprise anyone. Every American President will defend Israel at any cost. The A…

I wonder how much weight to put to the theory that Biden was letting Israel get away with genocide because Israel was also weakening Iran, and that was a way to weaken Russia and help Ukraine, sorry dear Gazans, your suffering and death is noted under the heading "collateral damage".

In happier news, Netanyahu's rampage helped Syria oust Assad, although that farmer from that Zen story says "Let's see."...

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by SllX »

JimBlackwood wrote: post #239
kragen wrote: post #209

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You're imagining this happening in a world where the US has the political status it had ten years ago, not the political status it will have ten years in the future.

No, it’s already happening today. There is an arrest warrant out for Netanyahu. Netanyahu visited Hungary, a party of the Rome Statue, and was not arrested. In a similar vein, Poland has said Netanyahu would have been welcome to visit the liberation of Auschwitz, without having to worry about out any arrest. Depending on how Hungary’s actions are resolved, the ICC will lose much of it’s use if member states just igno…

Just to add to your point, Germany’s Chancellor Merz has also extended an invitation to Netanyahu: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/election-winner-merz-in...

Hungary though technically still a party, is withdrawing from the Rome Statute: https://www.reuters.com/world/hungarian-lawmakers-approve-bi...

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

borosuxks wrote: post #247
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #228

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When did the US make that threat?

Trump, not the US, did

That's still for rage-bait. Trump says a lot of things, most of them aren't true. Everyone operating in good faith, knew this wasn't true. Nobody above a room temperature IQ would think the US would invade Denmark.

Edit: @danieljacksonno answering your comment from below here:

>He repeated it several times.

Trump repeats everything all the time. So what? That's what all politicians do. Your brain (if you have one) is supposed to filter that.

>Germany and France has spoken out officially against it, with Macron even visiting Greenland to show support.

That's you typical politician virtue signaling, because speaking is free. Since EU politicians are toothless all they do is talk to look good and score brownie points in front of their voters on $CURRENT_ISSUE. France and Germany can't keep their countries safe from illegal migrants, what are they gonna do against Trump if push comes to shove? Talk him to death about how orange he is?

>Denmark is freaking out, and want to remove all dependencies on the US as quickly as possible.

Are they also removing the F35 jets from their military and H100 Nvidia GPUs from their supercomputer? Who's gonna buy all that Ozempic that makes Denmark rich if not the US?

I feel like you're talking fantasy politick instead of realpolitik.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by freeopinion »

SllX wrote: post #170
jeremyjh wrote: post #159

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What does that have to do with what is appropriate?

I thought I was clear on this, but I guess not: it was entirely appropriate. They lost so thoroughly and the Holocaust was so repulsive that it was arguably necessary . Germany itself was also in such a precarious position that the continued existence of the German State was in jeopardy, and probably the only way it could continue to exist in any form even after being divided was to go through the Nuremberg Trials fi…

You are becoming incoherent. By your own argument, the Nuremberg trials were not necessary. Anybody lacking the military might to defy the U.S. can be summarily executed without a trial. Anybody enjoying the support of the U.S. military is exempt from any courtroom regardless of their actions.

Then here you write that Nurenmberg was appropriate and necessary.

You don't seem to be able to hold the thread of your own argument.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by [deleted] »

freeopinion wrote: post #242
SllX wrote: post #107

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It’s not appropriate for an international court that we’re not even a part of to put our Presidents and their subordinates on trial, nor is it something we should meekly concede to.

I don't advocate for the U.S. to concede its sovereignty to an outside court. But I do think that having an outside court publicly try the guilt or innocence of somebody within the U.S. is much more palatable than having some non-court within the U.S. decide on whether non-U.S. citizens living outside the U.S. should live or die. The U.S. openly assassinates foreigners in foreign countries without even faking a trial…

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by SllX »

FpUser wrote: post #250
SllX wrote: post #248

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It won’t even come to that because the real truth is that no ICC member is ever going to arrest and extradite to the ICC a sitting or former POTUS putting us in a position where the Marine Corps. would have to roll into The Hague with a carrier group or two nearby and multiple submarine ICBMs aimed at every capital in Europe. Also you know, the American military personnel already situated nearby within Europe on Amer…

Taking president of course means war. I mostly meant someone who is not the president, sitting of former. Then it will be the US thinking of potential consequences.

That’s also not going to happen. Even taking a former President is effectively an Act of War, especially with all the classified intel they were privy to during and still privy to after. Honestly you should consider it the same way all the way down to the rank of General, although I sure would hate to be a rank-and-file soldier caught by the ICC somehow. Even in that case they might not get a full on invasion on their behalf, you should still expect the State Department to intervene.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by SllX »

freeopinion wrote: post #246
SllX wrote: post #144

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Put another way, we defend American interests.

Please don't conflate the interests of an American with "American interests".

Like it or not, the elected President does lead on defending American interests, including which ones to prioritize, and they get to do that because they won the election.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by FpUser »

SllX wrote: post #257
FpUser wrote: post #250

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Taking president of course means war. I mostly meant someone who is not the president, sitting of former. Then it will be the US thinking of potential consequences.

That’s also not going to happen. Even taking a former President is effectively an Act of War, especially with all the classified intel they were privy to during and still privy to after. Honestly you should consider it the same way all the way down to the rank of General, although I sure would hate to be a rank-and-file soldier caught by the ICC somehow. Even in that case they might not get a full on invasion on thei…

>"Even taking a former President is effectively an Act of War ..."

I already said "...someone who is not the president, sitting of former....". You are just repeating.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by jeremyjh »

SllX wrote: post #258
freeopinion wrote: post #246

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Please don't conflate the interests of an American with "American interests".

Like it or not, the elected President does lead on defending American interests, including which ones to prioritize, and they get to do that because they won the election.

You are the one who said we defend American interests. If you can't defend that statement, then just retract it.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that I am talking about your Orange Guy. I am not. Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden all murdered people and should be held accountable.

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