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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Interesting read, but even if we assume the author is correct, and the cosmos formed as a black hole in a larger universe, the question remains, how did this larger universe formed, then? Might just be impossible to know.

But who would be as cruel to put us here without giving us those answers? Who? And where did that entity come from?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Oh I have so many questions on this topic. I've often wondered about this. I don't have any direct physics training, but it's something that felt really plausible after I learned that the mass of a black hole is linearly proportional to its swarzschild radius. As the size of the black hole goes up, its overall density must decrease. Combined with the other observation that our universe has uniform density at large sc…

There was a thread a while ago on here where the hypothesis for why things are moving apart at faster rates is down to time moving at different speeds due to mass. So time in the void between galaxies is moving quicker than time in the galaxies, but on the grand scale of the universe the differences as up a lot. I quite liked this theory, think is make sense, at least from my very limited understanding of this stuff.

Aka Timescape Cosmology, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inhomogeneous_cosmology

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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I thought the Pauli exclusion principle is why we have neutron stars, ie the degeneracy of a star results in the fusion of electrons and protons to form neutrons and emit neutrinos.

What is preventing the collapse in this case and results in a bounce?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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We have no theories working at those conditions. Wiki says > General relativity also predicts that the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity of infinite density and temperature.[6][obsolete source] However, classical gravitational theories are not expected to be accurate under these conditions, and a quantum description is likely needed[7]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr…

> [6][obsolete source] I didn't know but apparently wikipedia treats old sources as obsolete, doesn't matter if there's new information or not that would make it obsolete. I wonder if any sources supporting the notion that the earth is round must be updated every couple of years with a new source or study.

Obsolete doesn't just mean old, it means superseded by newer information.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Added. Opinions: A) I love all the scifi book recommendations that cone up on HN B) i wish you’d all stop recommending great and amazing books. My queue is so backlogged and jammed I'm never going to catch up.

So many books, so little time...

If only we had an even bigger universe, we would have more time... is that how it works?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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This was an interesting read, but I didn't understand exactly what leads to the big crunch. I get the exclusion principle leads to pressure, and this causes the bounce, but why would it continue to accelerate and then decelerate resulting in a big crunch? https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.111.1...

I don't understand where the rest of the parent universe is if all of the matter has emerged from the event horizon. Twisted into a new dimension, perhaps?

My take away was that it's still somehow causally disconnected from our universe. They make an assumption that the space outside is empty and that makes the numbers correspond closely with observations. Maybe there is stuff there but very very far away?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Oh I have so many questions on this topic. I've often wondered about this. I don't have any direct physics training, but it's something that felt really plausible after I learned that the mass of a black hole is linearly proportional to its swarzschild radius. As the size of the black hole goes up, its overall density must decrease. Combined with the other observation that our universe has uniform density at large sc…

> As the size of the black hole goes up, its overall density must decrease.

The center of a black hole is infinitely dense. That's why it even exists. The event horizon is not the black hole.

> and the fixed density of our observed universe

Our universe is expanding. It's density is not fixed.

You really want to be thinking about this in terms of entropy and not matter.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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First define consciousness such that the definition differentiates you from a computer with a webcam.

You can measure various aspects of a computer. You can't measure consciousness.

That's not a definition. Depending on the definition, it may be possible to measure it.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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I'm not a scientist or astrophysicist but i do believe in science, is it ok to believe that we as humans and all our scientific development still very very far from proving anything remotely close to how the universe got created? I feel this subject is for humanity in year 2600 to start discussing it. Scientist still can show their theories and search papers and i can't understand a shit but i don't believe in any th…

You don't believe in science, you believe in a metaphysical claim about science that you haven't articulated.
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