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NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Don't be sympathetic to us. We could rise up and stop it; we choose not to. It only just occurred to me that empires fall not because of leaders, but because of people letting its leaders tear it all down. Take us as a cautionary tale; if you don't participate in reform, this is what can happen.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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Why not take up those projects which align with the goals of the government? After all, science is also also about adaptation and survival.

Because 1) science comes up with inconvenient answers (like climate change is real and human caused) and 2) there's a virulent anti-intellectual ideology that's taken over the GOP so harming universities is it's own goal in and of itself.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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The NSF budget is ~$10billion. That's about half of NASA's, 1.2% of the DoD's, 0.5% of the discretionary budget ($1.7 trillion). Why is this the focus of the admin? Science is one of the few things the US is doing well.

There are very few places an administration can cut costs without touching entitlements. Until voters stop punishing politicians for raising the retirement age or trimming wasteful healthcare spending, they will cut the discretionary budget.

Society isn't going back to old people eating dogfood, a child labor workforce, and people being denied basic healthcare. Adjust to reality and make it work, or the masses will make it work but it won't benefit anyone how we get there.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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They're pushing a 55% budget cut. There is absolutely no universe in which you can justify that with rhetoric around "DEI" science. This is going to cut very, very deep into basic STEM / biomedical research. They're cancelling mRNA research, they're flagging research that uses words like "trauma" or studies how medications impact men and women differently. There's no sensible agenda behind all of this, it's just back…

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Nonsense. NSF awards are all public. If you could actually give enough examples of these "extremely large" awards to constitute 55% of the NSF budget you would have.

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Last week, staff were briefed on a new process for vetting grant proposals that are found to be out of step with a presidential directive on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI),... In the new structure, even if a revised proposal gets the green light from a division director, a new body whose membership has not been determined will take a fresh look to ensure it conforms to the agency’s new standard for making awa…

I think you can consider "DEI" as unfair racial discrimination even if you don't consider yourself a conservative. It's not the case that you have to agree with everything "your" side says, and disagree with everything coming from "their" side.

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So if it crashes, then it's Tesla's fault and they pay? Or do you pay?

If it crashes, it's my fault. At every point i'm supervising.

Except in self summon, and if it side swipes the car on the way out, it's obviously still my fault. That's just never happened to me.

Where in my sentence did i say I wasn't fully in control of the situation? I just say i very, very rarely even have to disengage in situations.

On the very rare occassion that i do disengage, it's not really that the car is going to put me in a life threatening situation, it kinda just stops... and tweeks out a bit. Mainly at some super wierd triangle intersection in some of the small towns along the california coast.

Honestly i've come to "feel" the car after using it. I'll disengage if i even have a shadow of a doubt it's not going to work, and in situations where i've seen it "fail" before. It might have accomplished it, but instead i just drive through the wierd intersection and reengage.

This has already turned into a rant, but one last point; Have you driven in the other cars in Austin? They do the same thing. When it tweaks, or thinks it might tweak, they patch over to a human who takes control of the car.

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> While I disagree with this perception that Trump is a "Russian asset", whatever this means If you don't understand what it means, how can you know you disagree with it?

It's an undefined term that changes with whatever conspiracy they want to push. That's why I disagree with it. I don't like Trump, but he's the result of bad decisions made in America, not by some foreign power.

I think the problem here is that there isn't just one way in which Donald Trump is unduly influenced by Russia in ways that are difficult to explain. I can understand being skeptical, but there's several independent actions Trump has taken that are all inexplicably sympathetic to Russian interests.

Just some quick examples:

* Recommending American de-nuclearization while stating that Russia is no longer a threat to America.

* Dismantling cybersecurity programs that are intended to identify and counter Russian hacking efforts.

* Peace negotiations with Ukraine and Russia that require no concessions made by Russia.

All of these actions are being taken despite polling poorly with Americans. You could say that none of these definitively proves that there is Russian leverage over Trump and you would be technically correct. The flip side of that coin is that you also can't explain why these actions are in America's best interest.

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Who cares? It contributes to the deficit, which is what matters for fiscal policy.

Social security is entirely self funded, has a large surplus in the form of the SS Trust Fund (that’s being spent down) and has contributed $0 to the deficit or debt. You should really learn the basic facts about something like that if you’re going to support cuts to the program.

The SS Trust Fund is numbers on a spreadsheet. It doesn't matter. It's gone and spent.

The question is about real actual resource distribution. SS is drawing more resources from young people than it is giving back. That's an actual problem, no matter how many tabs you add to your excel spreadsheet.

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Who would have been your pick?

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So you can't think of any candidates? Neither can anyone else. They still haven't found a good option for 2028, not for lack of trying.

Re: NSF faces shake-up as officials abolish its 37 divisions

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There are very few places an administration can cut costs without touching entitlements. Until voters stop punishing politicians for raising the retirement age or trimming wasteful healthcare spending, they will cut the discretionary budget.

Society isn't going back to old people eating dogfood, a child labor workforce, and people being denied basic healthcare. Adjust to reality and make it work, or the masses will make it work but it won't benefit anyone how we get there.

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