Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

Post by baobabKoodaa » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 6:30 PM UTC

II2II wrote: post #147

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #124

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I'm not paying for search, I'm paying for Unlimited Assistant. No, they did not "have some limits". Or at least, the product they sold me was very clearly labelled "Unlimited". The word "Unlimited" is literally in the name, and it was described as such in more wordly descriptions.

I'm not going to argue about your interpretation of the word unlimited and wish that its use was either banned or strictly enforced in this (and similar) contexts. That said, until accountability is legislated and enforced, it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited. Just as marketing abuses the word, customers abuse the concept. That's especially true in a domain where processes can be automated a…

Post by Zetaphor » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 6:41 PM UTC

7bit wrote: post #55

colonial wrote: post #41

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Revenue != profit. Discord, like almost every 2010s SaaS startup, has revenue (from your Nitro) - but not nearly enough to cover expenses.

Not enough to cover expenses? Do you understand what you're saying? That they're running a deficit for 15 years. Companies must make profit, or they vanish. They clearly make a profit, otherwise they would no longer exist.

Post by maronato » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 6:51 PM UTC

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #251

II2II wrote: post #147

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I'm not going to argue about your interpretation of the word unlimited and wish that its use was either banned or strictly enforced in this (and similar) contexts. That said, until accountability is legislated and enforced, it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited. Just as marketing abuses the word, customers abuse the concept. That's especially true in a domain where processes can be automated a…

> it is not reasonable to assume that unlimited means unlimited sure, but I am not abusing the unlimited plan. it is reasonable to assume that "unlimited" means that a normal user like myself will not run into limits.

Post by lurk2 » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 7:24 PM UTC

wyre wrote: post #222

lurk2 wrote: post #202

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Do you mean that they charge you an additional $5 (so in a 12 month period, exceeding the 300 search limit would result in 13 payments instead of 12), or does the next month’s subscription payment get moved up to the day that you ran out searches, with the number of payments remaining the same?

They update your monthly subscription's bill date to reflect the reup on 300 searches for the date of the 301st search.

Post by freehorse » Fri, Apr 18, 2025, 7:29 PM UTC

heywoods wrote: post #229

eightysixfour wrote: post #213

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I really feel like the software model is going to start to break in a couple of ways in the near future. Instead of vertical software slices, many people are going to want their single “horizontal” agent that they pay for (e.g Gemini Advanced, Claude) and connectivity to all of their other services. MCP (which I personally think is a mediocre protocol, so it will probably win) as the glue for a bunch of services we O…

Your intuition regarding the shift from vertical to horizontal integration is spot on! Sam Altman, in a recent Stratechery interview, detailed parts of OpenAI's future strategy that align with your prediction — a persistent, personalized AI. He envisions users interacting with OpenAI not just through core products but also across other applications. Altman described a key part of the strategy: "...we have this idea t…