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> " can't effectively be bruteforced like a user+password. " Only when the password is weak enough to bruteforce swiftly. It will take literally thousands of years to bruteforce strong passwords.

But you only need one weak password to get in

But you only need one password to protect your HTTP auth phpMyAdmin so just make it 30 characters.

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besides the fact 4chan is a cesspool I think there's a certain sadness that comes with the possible death of another "early-internet" forum.

I feel like 4chan was the last living source of what the young internet was like - raw, unfiltered, and honest. You've got to admit in today's day and age that's genuinely something rare especially in current time of grift culture.

so much history potentially gone, just like BB.com's forums...

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I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

I feel too many people who don't conflate /pol/ with the whole website, as well as the others, don't know why /pol/ was created.

It was eventually a replacement for the /new/ board, where news of the arab spring first started, shortly before it was shut down. However, it was plagued with proto-pol behavior before anyone was bothering to complain about pol.

There was always these 'cells' of non /jp/ shitposters, if they weren't the OG shitposters themselves, that would post about left-right politics ad nauseum, and in the most hallmark unproductive ways. It was when trolling evolved from 'clever this and that' to shear brute forcing. It was the topic of the news that attracted these unsavor political actors into that place, which was for a short period of time, a great diverse place for collecting news.

This social phenomena and history could never be repeated enough, particularly since we might be finally ending the story of pol/4chan - which was more popular than 4chan itself.

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You know, I always found Twitter (even pre-X) to be worse than 4chan ever was. Not in obvious terms, but in how it fucked with your head.

This is a pretty good take! It's because you could verbally attack and fight the 4chan idiots with a swarm of common sense and be lauded for doing that job. Doing the same on X will just get you banned for whatever reason Elon feels is best 'for the community'.

I dont understand why twitter is so prevalent in the tech community; and it's not like you can just 'not use it' - you are at a true disadvantage if you aren't on twitter because of how much discourse around new tech, private equity, etc transpires on it.

I'm surprised a literal echo-chamber in which free speech is suppressed for disagreeing with the party line is responsible for so much productivity because of how many techbros are active on it. What happened to the time where being a techbro meant you were an open source libertarian like Stallman?

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I think we can lament the old internet and still care nothing for 4chan.

Why? I am not pleased with the government forced pills such as TikTok, Twitter and other such shite shoved down my throat. You may enjoy the walled garden, I for one don't. Such sites gave you a hole to get away from the dystopian view that these gardens hold. They gave independence away from forced control.

It's incredibly easy to just not use those websites. My throat remains surprisingly clear with no effort.

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/g/ has a daily programming thread. I remember the SerenityOS developer used to post webm demos there. I remember seeing plenty of cool stuff. Someone on /vr/ once started a thread about SNES homebrew and actually made a /vr/ themed one. I wonder what happened to that guy.

/dpt/ was where i did a good deal of my learning during university, and the constant /g/entoo posting taught me far more about Linux than I would have learned on my own or through uni.

/g/entoomen taught me a lot about Linux too. The desktop and home server threads also have a lot of gold, people put a lot of effort into their systems. There are even Lisp generals. I remember people attempting the advent of code together and posting progress. There was one person who used a lot of Unicode in the source code.

Just yesterday I saw a rather interesting discussion about WD HDD internals and possible ways to figure out whether they are SMR drives. Shame this hack cut it short.

/tg/ had some seriously good chess players.

There's a board for everything. People see 4chan and think everything is /pol/. If anything, it's /a/. People have been arguing over which waifu is best girl for 20 years. 20 years.

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Regardless of date bracketing, I can miss 80's punk and not miss slam dancing. Maybe someone can list some positive internet culture we got from 4chan that I am overlooking.

This is like saying death metal isn't upbeat music and therefore nothing of value is lost by censoring it. Why does 4chan have to be positive culture to be considered valuable culture?

There's a big difference between "upbeat music" and "positive culture".

"Positive" in this sense isn't being used to mean "optimistic" or "happy". It's being used to mean "healthy for the world at large".

Regardless of whether any of us agree that 4chan was a net-negative, it should be very clear that "music that doesn't have an upbeat sound or themes" is not inherently unhealthy, but "subcultures that are unhealthy for the world at large" definitionally are.

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That's my point - if you have a reasonably secure password (let's say 50-100 characters, fully random), it's extremely unlikely that anyone is ever going to even get beyond the basic auth prompt.

Until there's a bug that lets you bypass it.

Then you should also be worried about bugs that let you log into an SSH session without providing your SSH certificate, passkey or whatever. Authentication bypass can happen with pretty much any buggy authentication method. None of this is inherently a problem of passwords or basic auth.

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There are tonnes of open source clones on github, source code to run the site is nothing special. You still need users.

Might I add, 4chan's implementation isn't even particularly good one

Nah I disagree. It's the best one. All of the extra shit other boards have just feels like needless bloat. Honestly the JS extension they added like 10 years ago is a bit much.

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/g/ genuinely was one of the worst boards on the website, but there were a handful of lurkers who made good posts in some of the general threads. the site as a whole was still was a diverse place up until yesterday, with only a few boards being unusably bad, and it was getting increasingly better. it's a bit sad really. zero-barrier to entry, no login gates, no accounts, and traffic was so high that it moved really f…

ive always wondered, is there a way to use technology on a board style wesbite to enforce a higher quality culture? i toyed with the idea of requiring an org email similar to Blind except it could be a school email too, the hope being that after verification you are fully anon still just now with write privileges and that it would somehow lead to better quality discussions and engagements

Aka how Facebook originally launched (.edu-only)

Social network culture is a multipart problem:

   1. You need quality posters
   2. You need to provide value to those posters
   3. You need to remove low-quality posts attracted by site growth
Any system that creates the above will be successful.

The rub is that the humans behind (1) are free agents, with little incentive to stick to the site once (2) fails.

Hence rapid Digg-style collapses from site owners who don't realize how tenuous their community quality is.

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