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How much of a cut does the publisher and steam take from a $20 purchase?
* Refunds and VAT 16% overall
* Steam cut 30% below $10,000,000 sales
* Publisher cut from net profit after recouperation is around 50%
So developer get around $5.88, but obviously for some countries it's can be better because there is no VAT or lower VAT, but price there would be like $5-15.
PS: And yeah from $5.88 you still owe some corporate tax.
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Honest answer? Dancing stick figure guy on the title screen. I did it very early in the project, in a fugue state at 3am. It lingered and lingered there, with ppl wondering "Is this real? Is this the actual title screen?" and luckily by the end I think everyone had drank enough psychedelic koolaid to agree - stick figure man stays. The artist made some better art for his hands/feet, and that was that. He's divisive,…
Balanced games feel like a chore: you just sit through them, trying to avoid those mistakes that aren't balanced away and there's never any hope for some positive discovery. Decisions do not matter and the pro-balancing crowd even thinks that this is a feature, not a bug. Yes, discovering the city-per-tile problem in Civ would ruin the game for you (I never did). That clearly is the bad kind of overpowered. But sendi…
"Single-player" here is key - minutely perfect balancing is often a necessity in multiplayer games, and I suspect sometimes that mentality is carried over to single-player experiences without stopping to question it.
How much of a cut does the publisher and steam take from a $20 purchase?
In gamedev we usually count it like this: * Refunds and VAT 16% overall * Steam cut 30% below $10,000,000 sales * Publisher cut from net profit after recouperation is around 50% So developer get around $5.88, but obviously for some countries it's can be better because there is no VAT or lower VAT, but price there would be like $5-15. PS: And yeah from $5.88 you still owe some corporate tax.
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In gamedev we usually count it like this: * Refunds and VAT 16% overall * Steam cut 30% below $10,000,000 sales * Publisher cut from net profit after recouperation is around 50% So developer get around $5.88, but obviously for some countries it's can be better because there is no VAT or lower VAT, but price there would be like $5-15. PS: And yeah from $5.88 you still owe some corporate tax.
Damn! Thank you very much for the info. Quite interesting - and unfortunately, more of a cut than I expected.
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Steam takes 30% and the publisher ( https://rawfury.com/developer-resources/ ) takes 50%, so the dev should end up with 35% of revenue (which then needs to be taxed etc.).
You're right, but unfortunately you forgot that: 1 - Before Steam take it's cut there are taxes and refunds, 15-20% depend on geography of sales. 2 - Publisher need to recouperate spendings agreed in contract, but yeah then it's likely between 40 and 60%.
For 2., I linked the page where you can find the document where the publisher claims to take 50%, if I didn’t miss something while skimming it.
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You're right, but unfortunately you forgot that: 1 - Before Steam take it's cut there are taxes and refunds, 15-20% depend on geography of sales. 2 - Publisher need to recouperate spendings agreed in contract, but yeah then it's likely between 40 and 60%.
For 1., I had the taxes afterwards and since every factor is just multiplied, it doesn’t matter for the end result. And do refunds count into the final sales number? For 2., I linked the page where you can find the document where the publisher claims to take 50%, if I didn’t miss something while skimming it.
Refunds on Steam can happen after a while so it's important to keep them in mind. If you sold 100 copies of your game 5-10% will be refunded.
> I linked the page where you can find the document where the publisher claims to take 50%.
I havent worked with Raw Fury and wouldn't be able to talk about it then anyway, but:
1 - If a publisher funded your game they will recuperate expenses by taking 70-100% of net profit. After that it can be 50%
2 - Some publishers also include localization, QA, LQA and even marketing budget into recoup amount.
200,000 units is a far cry from just a 'minor hit' - congratulations! During the project, what was the biggest instinct you had that was ultimately validated by its success, but still surprised you? What was a lesson you learned that you didn't expect? How was working with a publisher? What did they do right and what did they do wrong?
Honest answer? Dancing stick figure guy on the title screen. I did it very early in the project, in a fugue state at 3am. It lingered and lingered there, with ppl wondering "Is this real? Is this the actual title screen?" and luckily by the end I think everyone had drank enough psychedelic koolaid to agree - stick figure man stays. The artist made some better art for his hands/feet, and that was that. He's divisive,…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Balanced games feel like a chore: you just sit through them, trying to avoid those mistakes that aren't balanced away and there's never any hope for some positive discovery. Decisions do not matter and the pro-balancing crowd even thinks that this is a feature, not a bug. Yes, discovering the city-per-tile problem in Civ would ruin the game for you (I never did). That clearly is the bad kind of overpowered. But sendi…
Agree. Over-balancing everything in single player games sucks out the fun. "Single-player" here is key - minutely perfect balancing is often a necessity in multiplayer games, and I suspect sometimes that mentality is carried over to single-player experiences without stopping to question it.
(this basically killed puzzle / mystery box games, which survive only in a weird corner for not-very-online people playing on mobile)