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Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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Microsoft really doesn't care about branding: once I logged in to my new @outlook.com Inbox using Outlook.com, I was redirected to live.com where I had a single message pre-sent to me from the "Hotmail Team" welcoming me to Microsoft Live Hotmail.

outlook.com is basically in beta. They haven't even updated the calendars. I suspect that they will continue to iron these inconsistencies as the launch date of Windows 8 approaches.

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post #156
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We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

You needn't look any farther than Hotmail to grow wary of the merits of their new service. And there's the whole Skype brouhaha. Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt, when it comes to privacy and protecting their users (because they earn their money elsewhere), but with the Skype criticism, that may be subject to change. It's a nice flank of attack to use against…

> Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt

Hahahaha what

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #186

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Gmail allows you to sign in to multiple accounts at the same time (in different tabs). I have two pinned tabs always open in Chrome - one for personal, one for business emails. Works incredibly well for me.

If you're OK with having separate windows, you can use a different profile for each one. Chrome handles this much better than firefox. For example, I silo my facebook browsing with: chrome --app= https://facebook.com --user-data-dir=/home/jewel/.profiles/facebook The other thing I do is use a different google account for each of their services, so a policy violation in one won't shut off the service in another. For e…

Chrome handles this much better than firefox.

How so? What can Chrome do that using the Firefox Profile Manager can't?

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #239

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because they earn their money elsewhere ? This is a terribly odd statement. Microsoft has shown, time and time again, that they can shaft their customers because many of them have, or at least had, few alternatives. Google might make a lot of its money on advertising, but it wouldn't make a penny if it didn't have the trust and respect of its customers.

Yes it would. Neither I nor anyone I know use Google because we trust or respect it, we use it because it works well.

I'll bet there are some smart, hard-working, upstanding googlers here that read that and felt a little sad.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #239

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because they earn their money elsewhere ? This is a terribly odd statement. Microsoft has shown, time and time again, that they can shaft their customers because many of them have, or at least had, few alternatives. Google might make a lot of its money on advertising, but it wouldn't make a penny if it didn't have the trust and respect of its customers.

Yes it would. Neither I nor anyone I know use Google because we trust or respect it, we use it because it works well.

I use Google pretty much entirely because I trust and respect them. GMail is the first and only web email service I have ever used...I've always run my own mail servers, because the trust wasn't there.

I'm not sure I have that level of trust for Microsoft, though my trust in Microsoft is much higher than, say, facebook (which I actively distrust, and try very hard to prevent from having access to anything I would consider private, especially email).

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post #156
post #72

We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

You needn't look any farther than Hotmail to grow wary of the merits of their new service. And there's the whole Skype brouhaha. Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt, when it comes to privacy and protecting their users (because they earn their money elsewhere), but with the Skype criticism, that may be subject to change. It's a nice flank of attack to use against…

>Microsoft have an edge over Google in that they aren't perceived to be as morally bankrupt,

Lol, kids these days, not around during the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #72

We haven't instantly forgotten how Microsoft handles Skydrive, have we?: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4265086 I think I'll pass on putting my email through their systems. Although I have to admit this looks way better than GMail. I hope this inspires Google to do something about their interface design.

As a big Android/Google fan, I can't say they are exactly innocent when it comes to the sort of thing Microsoft was called out for with Skydrive.

When Google+ first came out quite a lot of people lost their "Google lives" (including their gmail accounts they had been using for years) when Google banned them for being under 13 or using a pseudonym.

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Not trying to be smug, but I bet you're younger than 30, if you can say that with a straight face.

Suppose we move 20 years forward. Are we going to see this type of comment regardless of what the company would be at that time? "No way, man! I bet you're younger than 50, if you... " Do you really think that ghosts from the past need to haunt people's minds for that long regardless of how the state of the world has changed? I perceive none of MS and Google as being protective of their users or respectful of said us…

The UEFI "secure boot" thing tells me they haven't changed one bit. They are still the same company. Trust them at your own risk. You have been warned.

Re: Introducing Outlook.com - Modern Email for the Next Billion Mailboxes

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post #209

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I click on my account picture in the top right, then click on "Add account" and log into the other one. Presto, two accounts. Disclaimer: I am about 99% certain this is not some weird internal Google feature (not on the gmail team, don't worry), but it's also been > 1 week since I had to go through this performance so I may have forgotten some detail.

And then when you click on some Google service it always logs you in with a wrong account. Good luck trying to add something to calendar by clicking to a link.

I assume this is hyperbole (I'm not sure what magic you're expecting...maybe something like intents where it asks you every time which account to use?), but the logic isn't complicated. It just uses the first account you logged in with. I'm usually signed in to two accounts (and have a gmail tab for each open right now), so I just sign in to the one I do my primary calendaring, etc in first.

If you really want to keep them separated, you should just use Chrome's multi user accounts or their equivalent in other browsers.

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