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AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by ZeWaka »

MattGaiser wrote: post #245
moyix wrote: post #57

One thing that is interesting is that this was anticipated by the OpenAI Codex paper (which led to GitHub Copilot) all the way back in 2021: > Users might be more inclined to accept the Codex answer under the assumption that the package it suggests is the one with which Codex will be more helpful. As a result, certain players might become more entrenched in the package market and Codex might not be aware of new packa…

ChatGPT and Gemini default to create-react-app, which has been considered poor practice for 2 years at least.

It's also officially dead now (finally, lol).

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by crazygringo »

No, AI isn't.

Any new tech, or version upgrade, or whatever, takes time for people to become familiar with it. You might as well say "Stack Overflow is stifling new tech adoption" because brand-new stuff doesn't have many Q's and A's yet. But that would be a silly thing to say.

I'm not going to adopt a brand-new database regardless of LLM training data cutoff, just because enough people haven't had enough experience with it.

And LLM's have a commercial incentive to retrain every so often anyways. It's not like we're going to confront a situation where an LLM doesn't know anything about tech that come out 5 or 10 years ago.

Early adopters will be early adopters. And early adopters aren't the kind of people relying on an LLM to tell them what to try out.

Re: AI is stifling new tech adoption?

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Post by ZeWaka »

normie3000 wrote: post #250
MattGaiser wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT and Gemini default to create-react-app, which has been considered poor practice for 2 years at least.

What's considered better practice? NextJS?!

Sure, or something like create-vite. Dealers choice.

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Post by tikhonj »

carlosdp wrote: post #162

I don't think this is a bad thing. Pretty much all of the author's examples of "new and potentially superior technologies" are really just different flavors of developer UX for doing the same things you could do with the "old" libraries/technologies. In a world where AI is writing the code, who cares what libraries it is using? I don't really have to touch the code that much, I just need it to work. That's the future…

> who cares what libraries it is using?

Presumably the people who have to read, debug and maintain the resulting garbage.

Then again, we have so much garbage code before LLMs, that it was clearly never that important.

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Post by gavmor »

benve wrote: post #196

I think this is true because I myself said to myself: "it is useless for me to create a library or abstraction for the developers of my project, much better to use everything verbose using the most popular libraries on the web". Until yesterday having an abstraction (or a better library/framework) could be very convenient to save time in writing a lot of code. Today if the code is mostly generated there is no need to…

Wow, and this posture doesn't apply to junior developers, ie a good abstraction is needed to avoid overwhelming the human "context window."

But it is a shame--and possibly an existential risk--that we then begin to write code that can only be understood via LLM.

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Post by AlexandrB »

munificent wrote: post #248
hiAndrewQuinn wrote: post #58

>Consider a developer working with a cutting-edge JavaScript framework released just months ago. When they turn to AI coding assistants for help, they find these tools unable to provide meaningful guidance because their training data predates the framework’s release. [... This] incentivises them to use something [older]. That sounds great to me, actually. A world where e.g. Django and React are considered as obvious…

> A world where e.g. Django and React are considered as obvious choices for backend and frontend as git is for version control sounds like a world where high quality web apps become much cheaper to build. Imagine you saying this twenty years ago. Would you still want to be writing your back-end in JavaBeans, your front end in VisualBASIC, and storing your data in Subversion?

VisualBASIC made much nicer (and more responsive) UIs than Electron, so this isn't the slam dunk you think it is.

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crazygringo wrote: post #252

No, AI isn't. Any new tech, or version upgrade, or whatever, takes time for people to become familiar with it. You might as well say "Stack Overflow is stifling new tech adoption" because brand-new stuff doesn't have many Q's and A's yet. But that would be a silly thing to say. I'm not going to adopt a brand-new database regardless of LLM training data cutoff, just because enough people haven't had enough experience…

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