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5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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There is no way that "15MBs-1" is more clear than "15MB/s", especially in an environment which lacks the ability to give text superscript styling.

Sorry mate, an old habit. Perhaps we should insist on more from formatting from above. That's probably a post processing thing for ... gAI 8)

Old habit from where? Is this a personal preference or a lesser known convention?

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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Sorry mate, an old habit. Perhaps we should insist on more from formatting from above. That's probably a post processing thing for ... gAI 8)

Old habit from where? Is this a personal preference or a lesser known convention?

Pretty common physics convention, uncommon when referring to data speeds but common for other things measured over time.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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> Could maximum data speeds—on mobile devices, at home, at work—be approaching “fast enough” for most people for most purposes? That seems to be the theme across all consumer electronics as well. For an average person mid phones are good enough, bargain bin laptops are good enough, almost any TV you can buy today is good enough. People may of course desire higher quality and specific segments will have higher needs,…

I don't understand this "good enough" argument. We never really needed anything we use daily today. Life was "good enough" 100 years ago (if you could afford it), should we have stopped?

4K video reaches you only because it's compressed to crap. It's "good enough" until it's not. 360p TV was good enough at some point too.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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I got a 5G capable phone a few months back, and I can't say I've noticed a difference from my old one. (Aside from the new phone being more expensive, worse UI, slower, heavier, unwieldy, filled with ads, and constantly prompting me to create a "Samsung account".)

What's any of that have to do with 5G? On 2 bars of 5G right now and I get 650Mbit download speed, it's significantly faster than 4G.

What provider? I have yet to get over 300Mb/sec on either TMobile or Verizon. Tmobile is suppose to have the fastest speeds according to reports.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#256

OK so someone has noticed that you "only" need 15MBs-1 for a 4K stream. Jolly good. Now let's address latency - that entire article only mentioned the word once and it looks like it was by accident. Latency isn't cool but it is why your Teams/Zoom/whatevs call sounds a bit odd. You are probably used to the weird over-talking episodes you get when a sound stream goes somewhat async. You put up with it but you really s…

Oh you'd love Project Genesis.

It has all the latency associated with cell networks combined with all the latency of routing all traffic through AWS.

As an added bonus, about 10% of sites block you outright because they assume a request coming from an AWS origin IP is a bot.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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In New Zealand we have a single company that owns all the telecommunications wires. It was broken up in the 90's from a service provider because they were a monopoly and abusing their position in the market. Now we have a ton of options of ISPs, but only one company to deal with if there are line faults. BTW the line company is the best to deal with, the ISPs are shit. Same for mobile infrastructure would be great as…

In NZ we also have the Rural Connectivity Group (RCG) which operates over 400 cellular/mobile sites in rural areas for the three mobile carriers, capital funded jointly by the NZ Government and the three mobile carriers (with operational costs shared between the three carriers I believe). For context the individual carriers operate around 2,000 of their own sites in urban areas and most towns in direct competition wi…

Ironically, often you get way faster speeds out on a RCG tower too. (probably due to few users), vs when in the city, where I often get pretty average speeds be it 4g or 5g.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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Sorry mate, an old habit. Perhaps we should insist on more from formatting from above. That's probably a post processing thing for ... gAI 8)

Old habit from where? Is this a personal preference or a lesser known convention?

Someone said physics, it's also very common in engineering. But academically and professionally, I've only seen it with superscript.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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post #77

> Of course, sophisticated representations of entire 3D scenes for large groups of users interacting with one another in-world could conceivably push bandwidth requirements up. But at this point, we’re getting into Matrix-like imagined technologies without any solid evidence to suggest a good 4G or 5G connection wouldn’t meet the tech’s bandwidth demands. Open-world games such as Cyberpunk 2077 already have hours-lon…

How many people consuming these services are doing so over a mobile network? For my area all the mobile network home internet options offer plenty of speed, but the bandwidth limitations are a dealbreaker. Everyone I know still uses their cable/FTTH as their main internet, and mobile network as a hotspot if their main ISP goes down.

Here in rural Finland, 4G/5G is the only option available to me. I'm getting 50-150Mbps download speed, but often just a dozen Mbps upload. On the night hours it's better and that's when I my game downloads and backup uploads. I think there's going to be another municipal FTTH program, let's see if I get a fixed line at that point.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#260

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There is no way that "15MBs-1" is more clear than "15MB/s", especially in an environment which lacks the ability to give text superscript styling.

Even worse when it's actually 15Mb/s.

15 Mb·s⁻¹
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