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20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by ipaddr »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #223
_qbxi wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At minimum, drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a different batch of congressional representatives in the future. Politics doesn't always act on instant gratification.

>At minimum, drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a different batch of congressional representatives in the future. >Politics doesn't always act on instant gratification. The odds are slim to none since the public didn’t already act, 4 years after the previous act of treason by Trump, on top of the fact that he campaigned on pardoning his treasonous co-conspirators. In fact, he was rewarded…

The Democrats were leading by 8 or more until the worst debate performance in history followed by a weak replacement. People never really cared about the capital riot. They cared about getting costs down... costs are going up with tariffing the world and businesses will suffer when they are shut out of foreign markets.

Things have already changed since the last election.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by tencentshill »

bmitc wrote: post #221
root_axis wrote: post #154

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Let's see what happens. At this point, I'm not convinced the union has any leverage.

The federal employee unions have incredible power, often to the detriment of the government.

What good is a lawsuit if He decides to ignore it and not pay? One side of that battle is ultimately backed up by the military.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by psychlops »

afavour wrote: post #123
ericmcer wrote: post #104

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Pretty standard government worker deal. I am not crying too many tears over government workers facing just a smidge of the uncertainty that everyone else has been living with since Covid. Your salary/promotions/healthcare/retirement are no longer guaranteed by just doing enough to not get fired (which is almost impossible)? Boo hoo, Welcome to the reality that everyone else in the world works in. In tech we are scrab…

Most of us in tech also get paid far, far more than anyone in the public sector. It’s always been my perception that the reliability of the job is a perk that makes up for the subpar salaries. I don’t think public sector workers are as spoiled as you make out.

How does your job security and pension compare?

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by casenmgreen »

reaperducer wrote: post #192
Larrikin wrote: post #137

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Aren't Twitter workers still trying to get their severances and they took the offer when Twitter actually had the money to pay.

Aren't Twitter workers still trying to get their severances and they took the offer when Twitter actually had the money to pay. Considering that SpaceX is so far behind on its bills that dozens and dozens of companies in Texas have had to place liens against the company, my guess is that neither the Twitter people, nor the SpaceX people, nor the federal buyout people will ever see a dime. For some reason, links to st…

Is it possible Mr. Musk's companies are actually in deep trouble financially, and this political stuff is actually a means to an end?

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by ipaddr »

dingnuts wrote: post #249
mostlysimilar wrote: post #175

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That's called giving up and it's exactly what they want you to do. Do not concede without a fight. Call your elected representatives and tell them you expect them to hold these people accountable and to be loud about it.

which representative? the one that "represents" a cracked district and doesn't see me as a constituent? or the senator who also doesn't see me as a constituent because of my address?

Talk about the people you are gathering together in the district.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by Applejinx »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #223
_qbxi wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At minimum, drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a different batch of congressional representatives in the future. Politics doesn't always act on instant gratification.

>At minimum, drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a different batch of congressional representatives in the future. >Politics doesn't always act on instant gratification. The odds are slim to none since the public didn’t already act, 4 years after the previous act of treason by Trump, on top of the fact that he campaigned on pardoning his treasonous co-conspirators. In fact, he was rewarded…

I would say an extraordinary amount of effort from foreign adversaries had to be undertaken to get that outcome.

Careful not to assume the public is composed of rational actors all of whom have good information, when they're demonstrably not and haven't. Drawing people's attention to the ongoing issues can result in a huge amount of buyer's remorse among people who tried hard not to pay attention to the election in hopes things could be more 'normal' if they voted for what they thought would be the political party they knew.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by ceejayoz »

neom wrote: post #206
kgermino wrote: post #85

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The offer mirrors Elon's offer to Twitter employees and many of them did not receive the money they were promised. Elon doesn't have the legal authority to make this offer today, it's poorly defined, and not a standard separation policy for federal employees. I'm not saying they won't be paid out, but I would't bet my livelihood on it

I looked into this and I find it kinda confusing. https://employmentlawweekly.com/uncategorized/500-million-se... && https://www.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/McMilli...

Litigation is ongoing; the class action was dismissed on standing grounds.

Individual cases are going through arbitration now instead. Some are winning: https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2024/09/24/79...

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Post by Brybry »

Molitor5901 wrote: post #24
manbart wrote: post #2

Doubt it... You'd be a fool to think you'd actually get the money

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Here's one of the template agreements: especially read #13. I'm not a lawyer but I would have serious concerns. [1]

[1] https://www.scribd.com/embeds/823976608/content

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