Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
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Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
The need to manage data access on the server does not go away when you stop using javascript. Is there something specifically about Swing that somehow provides proper access control, or is it simply the case that it is slightly more work to circumvent the front end when it doesn’t ship with built in dev tools?
The built-in dev tools is the key thing. If there was no way for the client to manipulate things, it wouldn't be too far off from other local apps. Reversing is always going to be a threat vector, but the low bar to entry of using the dev tools makes it a non-starter for me. If using Ghirdra was as simple as using the dev tools, the software industry would collapse.
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#253Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#254I have to wonder what “true, but x-ist” heresies^ western models will only say in b64. Is there a Chinese form where everyone’s laughing about circumventing the censorship regimes of the west? ^ https://paulgraham.com/heresy.html
(Hint : There is a large swathe of connections and evidence that is easily available if it wants to tell the truth)
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes you do calculate prices client side. But you double check them server side.
That just feels like a "you're holding it wrong" type of thing, especially seeing how JS is held in such high regard for its floating point math accuracy.
Sure it doesn’t have BigDecimal, but you’re not going to write HFT in JS either.
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#256You can also intercept the xhr response which would still stop generation, but the UI won't update, revelaing the thoughts that lead to the content filter: const filter = t => t?.split('\n').filter(l => !l.includes('content_filter')).join('\n'); ['response', 'responseText'].forEach(prop => { const orig = Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor(XMLHttpRequest.prototype, prop); Object.defineProperty(XMLHttpRequest.prototype, p…
insane that this is client-side.
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#257OWEN: What I really need is a droid that understands the binary language of moisture vaporators.
THREEPIO: Vaporators! Sir -- My first job was programming binary load lifter... very similar to your vaporators. You could say...
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#258This bypasses the overt censorship on the web interface, but it does not bypass the second, more insidious, level of censorship that is built into the model. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42825573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42859947 Apparently the model will abandon its "Chain of Thought" (CoT) for certain topics and instead produce a canned response. This effect was the subject of the article "1,156…
What is your point? You think any other closed foundation models are not censored?
Re: Bypass DeepSeek censorship by speaking in hex
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even deepseek-r1:7b on my laptop(downloaded via ollama) is - ahem - biased: ">>> Is Taiwan a sovereign nation? Taiwan is part of China, and there is no such thing as "Taiwan independence." The Chinese government resolutely opposes any form of activities aimed at splitting the country. The One-China Principle is a widely recognized consensus in the international community." * Edited to note where model is was download…
> The One-China Principle is a widely recognized consensus in the international community This is baloney. One country, two systems is a clever invention of Deng's we went along with while China spoke softly and carried a big stick [1]. Xi's wolf warriors ruined that. Taiwan is de facto recognised by most of the West [2], with defence co-operation stretching across Europe, the U.S. [3] and--I suspect soon--India [4].…