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Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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Yeah well I started smoking weed when I was 16 and I'm a poor man approaching retirement with no family or friends or assets and a tenuous job predicated in my ability to perform manual labor. Now what.

You're statistically more likely to become a burnout drunk than a burnout stoner. Literally every highly successful person you look up to in tech has been a proponent of weed usage, hell some even went farther with psychedelics. Like op, I too attribute a lot of my success to being a daily user of weed since I was 12.

What was the average THC content when you were a teenager?

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If you’re looking controlled study results you could refer to the post. If you want to provide your own anecdotal evidence to refute the parent comment, fire away.

My own anecdotal evidence is myself and many of my peers smoked plenty well under 18 and many of us became successful or reasonably so. the whole moral panic over cannabis use has been overwrought and fraught with bad science. now, would I want my child to use before they were 25? absolutely not. is it a catastrophe if they did? also no.

What was the average THC content when you were a teen?

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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This is 100% my own anecdote but I believe it helps me with my autism. And I believe that my relative who also has autism and never used cannabis in their life has been impeded by not using it. Just looking at us both now in our 40s, I have a stable career and they are a shut-in on disability. A lot of things lead us here but at the end of the day I think cannabis gave me a release, a way to let things go, not fret t…

Is your username a play on your INTJ result from the Myers Brigg Type test? Regardles, I relate to your comment a lot. Research is coming out from the Network of Applied Pharmacognosy that calls this the stoner neurotype.[0] [0] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/146-pharmacognosy-feat...

That's a fun sounding podcast, gotta give it a listen.

INTP rather, but I'm probably somewhere inbetween.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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The EPA came years after the dangers of cigarette smoking were known, and months after the ban on cigarette ads was made in the USA. Big Tobacco was really good at pushing/buying counter narratives (including but not limited to "think of all the poor tobacco farmers"). Why is marijuana considered so wonderful? Seems more like a grass roots movement ignoring the casualties along the way. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco-su…

> Why is marijuana considered so wonderful? It isn't considered "wonderful". It's just not worth putting people into prison over. It's still a vice, like tobacco, alcohol, or gambling. There are also some important differences between it and cigarettes. 1. Way less actual smoking needed. Or not needed at all because edibles exist. 2. It isn't chemically addictive or habit-forming for most people. 3. There are legitim…

"It isn't considered "wonderful".

We don't talk to the same people then

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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I don’t think Cigarette smoking became unpopular without heavy regulation. In countries that don’t have such restrictions, smoking is still ubiquitous.

Cigarette smoking stopped looking cool to teenagers and young adults.

Bans and advertising and showing smoking in movies did that.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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We will be just fine. Just like cigarette smoking, eventually weed will become unpopular to smoke. Unfortunately, it does seem like there is a big uptake in users after legalization, which hopefully will subside.

I don’t think Cigarette smoking became unpopular without heavy regulation. In countries that don’t have such restrictions, smoking is still ubiquitous.

Absolutely.

The things that did the most to drive down use were raising the price of cigarettes (which fund the healthcare costs) and banning smoking indoors, where it affected even non-smoking workers [1]. When we stop subsidizing harmful behavior, we get a lot less of it.

Especially in places that are super-cold.

[1] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1155/2012/961724

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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These studies may also miss categorize heavy/habitual users. Heavy canabis use tends to leave a somewhat functional if unmotivated individual. This is in contrast to heavy alcohol users who quickly lose the ability to function in society due to hangovers and inebriated actions.

Not all heavy alcohol users quickly lose the ability to function in society. Some have lucrative television careers and go on to run the Pentagon overseeing millions of others and trillion dollar budgets. * https://haderclinicqld.com.au/what-is-a-functional-alcoholic... * https://www.crestviewrecoverycenter.com/addiction-blog/7-sig...

That's only because politics elevates the worst of us.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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One aspect I’m curious about, especially given the younger cohort, is the causal directionality here - especially when I was younger, I knew a lot of people who were self-medicating with cannabis for things like anxiety and ADHD, which also have effects on working memory and executive function. I’ve known enough heavy users long enough that I do believe there’s long term cognitive effects (whether directly or indirec…

"Self-medicating with cannabis" is such a stupid idea since cannabis increase ADHD-symptoms.

Stimulants also 'increase ADHD-symptoms' for individuals that don't have ADHD, so I don't think the sentiment was attempting to address side effects of irrelevant cohorts.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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This is such an obvious problem to anyone who is above the age of 25. All of my friends who were real big into weed in high school are all pretty bad at remembering things, most work dead end jobs and are generally unmotivated The ones who started the youngest are in rough shape mentally. Every single one of my friends who still lives with their parents smokes multiple times daily. Out of all of them, only one is suc…

I could never understand why parents would allow able-bodied adult children to live with them (regardless of marijuana use or whatever). It's not doing them any favors. Some people need a little tough love to get launched in life. Drag them down to the Army recruiting office or something.

Hopefully, it's to help enable their success and wellbeing in such a way that it gives them steps towards becoming self-sufficient. Your tone is slightly crass, but you're not wrong that enabling bad behavior in your children is in opposition to your goals as a parent. If you can reason that your nourishment of resources gives them opportunity without becoming a direct dependence and the cost to yourself isn't too high, I don't see it being a problem. Essentially, it varies on how you see your role as a parent and your relationship with your child.

Re: Younger cannabis users have reduced brain function, finds largest study yet

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I'm inclined to believe that there is fairly likely to be long-term negative health effects from cannabis use, but that the very obvious correlation many people in this thread can probably identify with their friends in highschool is just that, a correlation, for some reason or series of reasons. My friends who really got into weed at that time were absolutely addicted to it, and some of them I do believe let it affe…

I believe weed should be subsidized and sold so that you really must not be tricked onto buying it & cannot buy it when addicted solely for reason of getting more addicted without any other reason. Otherwise though, why restrict people from being dumb? What's the opposite drug in the "South Park," senae? I would say methylphenidate+LSD makes one, not in simultaneous use, more acutely aware of need to do things. LSD p…

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