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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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You don't have to ditch YouTube to avoid annoying commercial breaks. Any decent ad-blocker will skip the ads in YouTube videos, or you can even use an alternative viewer like SmartTube.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

> Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss. I fear that Firefox’s days are probably numbered at this point, as it’s (imo) too late to turn the ship. Firefox/Mozilla gets something in the region of 80% of its revenue from a single source, Google, for the default search engine placement. But with the court finding Google being a Monopoly those payments will probably come to an end. Ap…

I recently made Safari my default browser for this reason. If Firefox’s days are numbered, I figured I’d get ahead of it than be forced. Ublock origin isn’t available for safari, but I was able to use the same content blocker that I use on iOS and it seems to be doing the job.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Does this phenomenon have a name — things get progressively worse but people find ways to make do in the short term, and are relatively content with the state of affairs; then the ways to make do break under continued pressure, and people are worse off than if they didn’t make do and fight the worsening conditions initially?

In this case, it’s the enshittification of the internet — a technological wonder exploited, commodified and destroyed for commercial gain. A network built for science and then for human connection, turned into a cesspit of corporate spyware, addiction, and behavior manipulation. If we rejected this earlier, we would all be better off — less spied on, less addicted, less manipulated, probably more connected and happier. But we found ways to make do like ad blockers that have grown into essential privacy protectors. That will now gradually stop working.

But it’s a broader phenomenon. It can be seen in tech, healthcare, politics, economics climate change, corporate management — everywhere.

It’s like a proverbial cousin of the boiling frog. In this case, the frog is aware of slowly boiling water and makes itself content by temporary means. Then, of course, it boils, but rather suddenly and painfully compared to the usual boiling frog tale.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

So there are multiple factors here - I used to work on browsers so have some experience here :D First off, there are legitimate security concerns with the kind of functionality required for effective ad blocking given the immense work the ad industry (i.e google) have put into preventing purely static filters is also very powerful for exploitation. Those powers can (and have been) abused: the recent news about "Honey…

There are some ways to abuse solely the ability to stop an inflight web request, and being able to see what url it was for.

But, that did require a specific permission.

And the permission/ability to inject arbitrary JavaScript into any page is still there. As are other abilities that can be abused.

Meaning, the security argument for removing blocking onBeforeRequest was always a diversion. It is not nearly the highest risk thing in the api.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Could someone explain in simple terms, what’s so tricky about spinning off a v2-compatible chromium fork?

google can weaponize structural changes to make any v2 maintainer's life a living hell, the code base is massive.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss. I fear that Firefox’s days are probably numbered at this point, as it’s (imo) too late to turn the ship. Firefox/Mozilla gets something in the region of 80% of its revenue from a single source, Google, for the default search engine placement. But with the court finding Google being a Monopoly those payments will probably come to an end. Ap…

I recently made Safari my default browser for this reason. If Firefox’s days are numbered, I figured I’d get ahead of it than be forced. Ublock origin isn’t available for safari, but I was able to use the same content blocker that I use on iOS and it seems to be doing the job.

Why not just use firefox and ublock origin while it works instead of a sub par experience just because you decided to impose it on yourself?

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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post #254

Does this phenomenon have a name — things get progressively worse but people find ways to make do in the short term, and are relatively content with the state of affairs; then the ways to make do break under continued pressure, and people are worse off than if they didn’t make do and fight the worsening conditions initially? In this case, it’s the enshittification of the internet — a technological wonder exploited, c…

It has something to do with basic american arrogance. E.g. many western cities americans came to and saw the mexican populations living on the hills instead of on the flats. What fools, the americans thought, until inevitably for most of these towns they experienced some 100 year deluge that absolutely wiped out stick frame mainstreet while those foolish homes upland were untouched. This pattern would continue for some towns in the american west until the army corps of engineers channelized local waterways to force the main street on the lowland location to work… right up until we finally got storms that exceeded even those flood water estimates. The hubris of the American is rather unique thanks to some of the Manifest Destiny tenets that still persist in our culture to this day.
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