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> Kremlin's sawing chaos in the democratic world "President Yoon has taken an overwhelmingly pro-US policy compared to previous presidents," and his "PPP is fiercely anti-communist and advocates a hawkish policy against North Korea" [1]. With "many PPP politicians support[ing] South Korea having nuclear weapons on its own," this is not the man Pyongyang or Moscow want as dicator in Seoul. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org…
I doubt this has anything to do with anybody outside of South Korea, but this is precisely the sort of man adversarial states would want.
Think about what's going to happen next! You have an extremely unpopular leader trying to sieze power by force, presumably soon banning opposition parties and more.
It's going to create extreme discontent at the minimum, and civil war at a maximum. And once he's eventually overthrown, his allies and interests often become anathema to the next regime, and the people.
This is is like an enemy successfully carrying out a color revolution on fast forward.
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#253More here
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn38321180et
> According to South Korean law, the government must lift martial law if the majority of National Assembly demands in a vote.
> The same law also prohibits martial law command from arresting lawmakers.
> members of the National Assembly have been banned from accessing the building.
The head of the (president's) ruling People Power Party has vowed to block the (president's) declaration, describing it as "wrong".
> Currently, around 70 members of the opposition are inside the assembly, while the rest are gathering outside
> When Speaker Woo Won-shik arrives he will call for a vote to lift the martial law
> special forces soldiers are inside the assembly building. It is unclear what the soldiers are doing.
Also, military helicopters landed on the roof.
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> Yes, that's dystopic. Yes, making people do that for 14 days after traveling anywhere in the country is martial law in all but name only. making people isolate after international travel during a global pandemic is not "martial law in all but name". this is an absolutely unhinged thing to think. please get some fresh air and get off Youtube and Rumble.
This was after domestic travel. It's martial law because your basic freedom of movement within the country was abridged without a trial or legal proceeding or any crime.
I don't watch youtube and don't know what rumble is. For those of us not terminally online, just witnessing reality is shocking enough.
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#255Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever. Up there with gravity and shit. I wish we could do something with this information, but alas, knowledge isnt power. Cersei Lannister: Power is power.
Orwell being so right about governments using the constant threat of a virtual enemy has got to be one of the all time top on the money predictions ever. Who is that virtual enemy for the US?
Here one example. Al-Qaeda was the name of Osama bin Laden's legitimate political party in Saudi Arabia, which he kept separate from his jihadist activities in Afghanistan. There is not now, nor has there ever been, a shadowy international terrorist group called Al-Qaeda. It's a complete fiction that was used as a simple explanation for the dizzying array of groups hated by western oligarchs.
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Please note that this is not a majority sentiment in Korea. This is a fringe conspiracy theory popular among the 4chan-like crowd in SK.
Edit: It looks like the parent post was updated to remove the conspiratorial stuff. The sole fact listed is indeed true.
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A question from the other side of the world: if the opposition is controlling the parliament, isn't that the majority and isn't the opposition controlling the president?
> if the opposition is controlling the parliament, isn't that the majority and isn't the opposition controlling the president? You're confusing prime ministers in parliamentary democracies, e.g. the UK with presidents [1]. [1] https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-betwee...
The point still stands, if you control the parliament, aren’t you the majority and the other side is the opposition? Or how is it defined who is the opposition?
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#258I'm not familiar with the situation but reading the article, this sounds very similar to Netanyahu in Isreal, using the excuse of the opposition to stay in power.
From what I can tell Netanyahu was honestly elected. There is still reason to suspect he will be voted out in the next election (if he won the current war in 2 months he would be sure to win) and will peacefully transition power. Only time will tell of course, for now at least it still looks like someone in power that you may not like but honestly elected by his own people.
Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. The US had to delist some terrorist organisation to make it possible for him to form a government, which went on to intensify the crimes against the palestinians while routinely lying about it, and then shrugged off warnings about the coming attack on October 7th, and then he's been lying about the policy regarding captives, and so on and so on.
In Israel it's common to view his genocidal use of the IOF as a way to cling to power and avoid prosecution.
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The US has its own problem with declining freedom.
How so? That may have been true a few years ago during the COVID lockdowns, but as we've recently seen, Americans will often punish that behavior heavily at the poll booth
I think that post-covid US has been more antagonistic to freedom than ever before in my lifetime, and the trend is getting worse.
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