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I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by School-Cotton »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #230
Symbiote wrote: post #56

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In many countries fire hydrants are underground, under an iron or concrete cover. There's very little to see on the street. There might or might not be a sign marking the location. Sweden: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fire_hydrants_in... UK: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Fire_hydrants_in... It's also not necessarily relevant to worry about blocking one when parking a car.

Most UK hydrants are at junctions where its already illegal to park... come to think of it, I think USA ones are maybe mostly at junctions (in the media I've seen)? Are you allowed to park at junctions in USA?

> Are you allowed to park at junctions in USA?

US driving laws vary quite widely depending on the state (and sometimes depending on the city within the state). So there’s probably no uniform answer. But parking at an intersection is indeed allowed in a lot of places within the US, in my experience.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by Gud »

burningChrome wrote: post #182
nmarinov wrote: post #167

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What's the best captcha regarding accessibility?

None. There are no "best" version of captcha. I've worked on several large scale projects where captcha was floated and then quickly abandoned in favor of other methods like Honeypot or using other methods to weed out bots and other 3rd party agents. If you have to use captcha the least worst are probably reCaptcha V2 and hCaptcha for accessibility.

What were the chosen choices? Curious to know

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by happymellon »

rovr138 wrote: post #97
jillyboel wrote: post #76

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I live in "the West" but English isn't my main language. I have no idea what a conoid is.

> A conoid is a ruled surface whose rulings are parallel to a plane (called the directrix plane) and intersect a fixed line (called the axis of the conoid) (Gellert et al. 1989, p. 202). Examples include the circular conoid, helicoid, hyperbolic paraboloid, parabolic conoid, Plücker conoid, right circular conoid, Wallis's conical edge, Whitney umbrella, and Zindler conoid. If the axis is perpendicular to the directri…

This doesn't look like a surface with stripes at all.

> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_umbrella

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by happymellon »

Suppafly wrote: post #58
Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

>conoids Things that are shaped like cones?

Things that look like a con?

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by gattilorenz »

seanhunter wrote: post #153
smitelli wrote: post #98

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I distinctly remember a captcha which asked me to identify fire hydrants. Some of the pictures were hydrants, while others were standpipes. These are different things, and I answered accordingly. The service refused to acknowledge my humanity until I relented that a standpipe was a hydrant. If at some future date any of us burn to death due to an automated fire truck that misbehaved due to this, we’ll know why.

Yup - I recognize this problem. I am a motorcyclist and I frequently have to grit my teeth and misidentify scooters as motorcycles if I want to get past captcha. For non-bikers, a scooter has an automated gearbox and small wheels etc. Think vespa. In the UK at least they are generally a different category of license, although that's because of the size of a standard scooter engine.

Classic Vespa does not have an automatic gearbox. Last one without it was probably a PX model in the early 2000s, though.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by seanhunter »

gsk22 wrote: post #216
seanhunter wrote: post #153

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Yup - I recognize this problem. I am a motorcyclist and I frequently have to grit my teeth and misidentify scooters as motorcycles if I want to get past captcha. For non-bikers, a scooter has an automated gearbox and small wheels etc. Think vespa. In the UK at least they are generally a different category of license, although that's because of the size of a standard scooter engine.

Except scooters are literally motorcycles? From Wikipedia: > A scooter (motor scooter) is a motorcycle with an underbone or step-through frame, .... Scooters are often legally motorcycles as well. For example, I had to get a motorcycle endorsement on my license for a scooter I owned, because the engine displacement was too large for the extremely restrictive "moped" category in my state.

Of course as a scooter rider you say its a motorcycle. That wiki entry was probably written by a scooter rider also. ;-)

I actually feel a fellowship with all two-wheel riders but don't let any other bikers know or I'll be shunned.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by genewitch »

School-Cotton wrote: post #250
thebruce87m wrote: post #212

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That’s my zip code too, along with millions of others who live outside the US. Haven’t needed to use it for a while.

Similarly, on websites that require a British address I use “10 Downing Street” (the only one I know!)

221 baker

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by genewitch »

reaperducer wrote: post #211
ta1243 wrote: post #22

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Sorry I live in the west, what's a "crosswalk" Did you mean to say > not everyone lives in the USA Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant, yellow taxis, yellow buses (Obviously I do, because of American cultural imperialism through things like Captchas which mean the world has to understand American cultural touchstones)

Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant Even within the United States, fire hydrants vary greatly from city to city. I remember the first time I moved to a city that had those little squatty dark blue ones. I thought they were water main access points. It's interesting to see so many people on HN assessing that captchas are biased toward American culture. Very frequently I get captchas that include th…

yeah, where are all these mopeds "in the US" i can't even remember the last time i saw someone on a moped... 15 years ago in L.A.?

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by genewitch »

crazygringo wrote: post #177
Rastonbury wrote: post #14

Some captchas are getting pretty discriminatory, not everyone lives in the West and can identify the objects they are asking you to. Another recent one sticks out where they asked me to pick a shape as the same number of conoids on screen. If you ask people on a street what a conoids I bet a significant amount will give you blank looks Also at least now I know some people call those markings crosswalks

I am Googling "conoid" right now and I still can't even imagine what it's supposed to be. The Google dictionary says it's a zoological term "approximately conical in shape". The Wikipedia panel says "In geometry a conoid is a ruled surface, whose rulings fulfill the additional conditions: All rulings are parallel to a plane, the directrix plane. All rulings intersect a fixed line, the axis." The graphics are... nothi…

In the UK some crosswalks have cones on the bottom of the box where the button to wait to cross is, and OP mentioned crosswalks in the final sentence. Maybe it's just too late for me right now, but that's what my brain assumed, but the "same number of shapes as" thing was not enough context!

the cone on the bottom spins when you have the right of way.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by genewitch »

Retr0id wrote: post #240
Y_Y wrote: post #232

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Even assuming that uneven distribution is a problem, and that it was possible to make global wealth evenly distributed, it would be such a collosal undertaking that it would necessarily entail massive social upheaval and take a very long time after which the captcha problem would hardly be comparable to what we have now.

None of that is at all relevant to the point I was making. Whether you think extreme wealth inequality is good or bad, for as long as it exists, it makes paying fixed fees a poor alternative to captchas.

"A fine means it's legal if you're rich"
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