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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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M4 MacBook Air is rumored for the spring. Last announcement tomorrow is rumored to be the MacBook Pros.

Seems weird to stagger it like that, unless they have a huge amount of M3 Air stock they're hoping to shift over the holidays.

The release cycle is the same every year, aside from occasional refresh omissions and delays. It would be weird if they actually did release the M4 Air tomorrow.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Why would you prefer an external power brick? The internal power supplies in Mac minis have been extremely reliable and the fewer cables the better, in my opinion.

Plus you would lose a USB-C port to power

They can surely add another USB-C port, it would take the space of the current power socket so space wise it shouldn't be an issue either.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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What a great little computer at a very reasonable price. A few interesting things with this announcement: 1. Interesting that they did not have this as part of an event. I think this either means they do not have much else to share around the Mac right now or the opposite, there just won't be room to talk about the iMac or Mac Mini. I am leaning towards the former as a I suspect the other computers in their lineup wi…

> This seems small, but it would have been almost blasphemy under the jobs era. I feel like Jobs was a lot more pragmatic than we give him credit for. I mean we had the HP iPods, iTunes on Windows etc. And the iMac's catch copy was "BYODKM" at the very start, fully putting the spotlight on third parties and composability.

I've followed Apple all my life and never heard of HP iPods!

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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No mention of the SSD size that was the reason I returned my Mac mini 256Gb last year was just a pain juggling files

You do have the option of a 10 gigabit Ethernet port, so you can build out a linux box for local shared storage with components as cheap as you're willing to trust.

That’s useful. The TB3 external 10 gig interfaces I’ve been using for my Mac get crazy hot.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Unified memory too. It's your GPU and your ram.

Yeah the same tech pcs were using for 14+ years https://x.com/LinaAsahi/status/1820947147312820497

> I know ancient iGPUs had that thing for setting the GPU memory size in the BIOS, but that's aaaaaancient and completely obsolete. If you still have that, just set it to the minimum value. The rest of memory will be unified.

I hadn’t used a PC in so long, I still thought that bios setting decided the division. TIL.

Lucky we have Asahi Lina to clarify the details.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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It's not just RAM. It's Unified RAM. So that memory is also used for the GPU & Neural Cores (which is for Apple Intelligence). This is actually why companies moved away from the unified memory arch decades ago. It'll be interesting to see as AI continues to advance, if Apple is forced to depart from their unified memory architecture due to growing GPU memory needs.

>This is actually why companies moved away from the unified memory arch decades ago. I don't understand - wouldn't the OS be able to do a better job of dynamically allocating memory between say GPU and CPU in real time based on instantaneous need as opposed to the buyer doing it one time while purchasing their machine? Apparently not, but I'm not sure what I'm missing.

I disagree that unified memory is a bad thing.

The usual reasoning that people give for it being bad is: you share memory bandwidth between CPU and GPU, and many things are starved for memory access.

Apple’s approach is to stack the memory dies on top of the processor dies and connect them with a stupid-wide bus so that everything has enough bandwidth.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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I love its form factor, less so the price difference between the M4 and M4 Pro models ($800 USD, presumably so it doesn’t cannibalize the Studio). It looks small, friendly, and inviting to the user, despite not breaking its industrial aesthetic. Honestly kind of want one as a desktop, even though my M1 Pro MBP is still insanely powerful for my needs.

I feel the same way. I have a really nice MBP and I cannot justify a dedicated desktop when a single thunderbolt cable to my laptop does the job just fine, but I do love the value and design. Maybe I'll pick one up for the kids.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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> Mac mini is Apple’s first carbon neutral Mac Hats off! I didn't expect the Mac to be next in line for the carbon neutral goals. But they did it!

Mac minis are going to be one of the smaller selling product lines, so it's probably easier to offset the carbon emissions with the carbon credits they buy.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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I've been pondering giving up on Macs for a while and this blind and rather stupid deferral to "AI" is going to accelerate the process. Almost nobody asked for this. I personally would have wanted one program to not stop starting with a cryptic message after upgrading to macOS 15.1 earlier today. But hey, crazies like me who want a decently working software are apparently not welcome in the customer base. The only re…

> Apple is now in decline I've been saying this since the butterfly-keyboard fiasco. At that point it was clear that professional users weren't the focus anymore, and I promptly left the ecosystem. I still have a iPhone (12 mini) that I only keep because it still works, but every time CarPlay tries to murder me in traffic, I get one step closer to just yeeting that phone into the sea.

>> Apple is now in decline

>I've been saying this since the butterfly-keyboard fiasco.

It doesn't look like it: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=aapl&ie...

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Positives: + form factor + ARM/Apple silicon/SoC Negatives: - Apple tax on memory, storage - non-upgradeable - Apple tax on 1GbE to 10 GbE ($100 surcharge lol) - maxes out at 64G of configurable memory w/ m4 pro Got to give it to Apple. The traunches between different configuration levels is “small” enough to convince buyers to enter the next level. It’s like “hey, you are already at $4000 for m4 pro with 64g. Just s…

$100 for the 10GbE upgrade doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

A PCIe 10GbE NIC using the same Aquantia chipset as existing Macs is $80-$90. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-XG-C100C-Network-Adapter-Single/...

edit: in fact, compared to Apple's usual price gouging for extra RAM/SSD/etc it is downright reasonable.

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