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16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.
> 16GB base RAM, they finally did it. I've paid €200 for 128GB RAM in my PC. How much does Apple charge for 128GB of memory?
16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.
Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.
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On the one hand, sure, Apple loves to get that extra margin for more RAM and SSD, no doubt. On the other hand, the MacBook Air ships with 8GiB RAM standard, and it's robustly popular. One could suppose that all those customers are suffering from the lack of RAM, or one could suppose that for many use cases, it's an adequate amount. The latter is more likely. macOS manages memory well, and a fast SSD means that swappi…
I'm not sure how can we tell. The Mac revenue has peaked back in 2022 and has been declining since. But assure, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people use their Macs as they would an iPad (i.e. at most a single app and/or browser and 8GB might be enough for that).
That they sell a lot of stock MacBook Airs? They do. I don't find the topic interesting enough to find a link, but I'm pretty confident on this one.
> a lot of people use their Macs as they would an iPad
A lot of people have pretty undemanding requirements in a laptop, yes. 8GiB is more than enough for some web browsing and light document editing, a bit of photo retouching, that kind of thing. There are many Chromebooks on the market right now with 4 GiB and they sell in numbers.
The HN tilt trends toward systematically overestimating system requirements because development is fairly demanding of them.
I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.
your average user (aka not HN-er) doesn't upgrade their computer
an all-in-one solution is very attractive for families or situations where you don't need to tote around a laptop and you want a large screen
If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.
I’ve never felt memory limited on my 16gb macbook pro, on which I code, run rust-analyzer (major memory hog), video edit, etc. Most people definitely don’t need 32GB
I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.
That's the target buyer.
Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on the Mac? Certainly, most AAA titles do not. >Compared to the most popular 24-inch all-in-one PC with the latest Intel Core 7 processor, the new iMac is up to 4.5x faster. You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair…
Why would anyone buy a Porsche? You can buy an F-150 with a >1 ton payload capacity, fit 6 people in it and if you get the EV version it might be even faster than the base config Porsche.
The PC will take up a lot of space, use a lot more power, be loud and be look ugly. Some people might care about these things even if you don't.
It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer
Are you expected to replace your screen often? I don't think I upgrade and replace either one much faster than the other. Usually get a new monitor and a new PC every 4 or so years.
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Yeah, that's my biggest complaint with iMacs: I want to be 100% certain I can repurpose them as monitors later in their lives. I have a ten year old iMac at the moment that would make an amazing second monitor... but it doesn't quite have the features I need to use it like that. An HDMI input would be great.
> An HDMI input would be great. There is a reason that is difficult to do: the licensing terms for HDMI require manufacturers to put DRM in place to make it impossible (or at least not straightforward) to record from an HDMI source. It's nearly impossible to meet that requirement on a computer.
As someone who mucks around with running LLMs and other large models on my computer the 32GB maximum RAM is a show-stopper for me. I'm on a M2 with 64GB at the moment and I'm already regretting not going for 96 or even 128. I want to be able to run a large model AND other apps at the same time.
I'll be curious to see if the Mini has an M4 Pro option, and if so, what the RAM ceiling will be!