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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by BearOso »

Tanoc wrote: post #104
sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

The thing is, the people most likely to complain that the Cybertruck is a bad vehicle are the people who are informed about it. The wider public doesn't know about things like the tonneau cover leaking, wheel bearings failing, the suspension being stuck down and causing tire rub, the aerodynamic wheel covers that were causing tire failures because they were puncturing the sidewalls, the upper control arms that bend l…

I think most of these people don't notice because they aren't pushing it. They're using it like most people use an SUV these days--as a normal car on roads and highways without any cargo. It's an overpriced status symbol to them.

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Post by llamaimperative »

rdtsc wrote: post #230
llamaimperative wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I smoke a pack a day and I haven't heard of lung cancer. I play the lottery every day and I haven't won a dollar. Etc etc

> I play the lottery every day and I haven't won a dollar The chance of a consumer encountering any of those issues is equivalent to winning the lottery? We should all run and get a cybertruck! :-;

No, I'm describing the uselessness of people's individual experiences to describe statistical phenomena

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by llamaimperative »

kaliqt wrote: post #180
llamaimperative wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I smoke a pack a day and I haven't heard of lung cancer. I play the lottery every day and I haven't won a dollar. Etc etc

That's not equivalent. You are describing likelihoods in time series, we are discussing the likelihoods of exceptional defects, period. Which is actually low.

I ate Boar's Head meat and I didn't get listeria

Etc etc

The temporal component doesn't matter at all, the point is that an individual's experience is pretty meaningless when trying to understand statistical phenomena. Which is why we invented statistics and do things like "collect data"

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by _yb2s »

TMWNN wrote: post #71
BeefWellington wrote: post #54

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For a number of years, a friend of mine has had a '99 Plymouth Prowler. If I were to base car popularity based solely on people coming up to ask about the car, his would win hands down and you'd assume (naturally) that Plymouth just couldn't manufacture enough to keep up with demand. There's a huge difference between attention-grabbing looks to a vehicle that will have people stop you and ask about it and what people…

> For a number of years, a friend of mine has had a '99 Plymouth Prowler. If I were to base car popularity based solely on people coming up to ask about the car, his would win hands down and you'd assume (naturally) that Plymouth just couldn't manufacture enough to keep up with demand. There's a huge difference between attention-grabbing looks to a vehicle that will have people stop you and ask about it and what peop…

I doubt the prowler was getting mocking comments… they are a cool looking unique vehicle. People didn’t buy many for the same reason most people don’t buy an actual 1930s roadster they’re based on: they’re expensive and impractical- even as a sports car you can get a Porsche for much less money that will outperform it and can still fit a bag of groceries.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by coconoconut »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #111

There was a Cybertruck at the Paris Games Week (there was a Tesla corner in the con for some reason). That was my first time seeing one in person. The most striking thing was how tall it was. Half the kids attending the PGW were smaller than its front bumper. I hope these things never, ever get allowed in France.

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by ryandrake »

bko wrote: post #229
Tanoc wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, the people most likely to complain that the Cybertruck is a bad vehicle are the people who are informed about it. The wider public doesn't know about things like the tonneau cover leaking, wheel bearings failing, the suspension being stuck down and causing tire rub, the aerodynamic wheel covers that were causing tire failures because they were puncturing the sidewalls, the upper control arms that bend l…

I think a simpler explanation is that terminally online people just don't like the politics of the CEO and like to take any chance to dunk on him. In a world that has been stagnant for decades in terms of design and doing things out the box, it's something at least trying to be different. Don't get all the hate

People were dunking on the Cybertruck before Musk made that sharp turn into a political lightning rod around when COVID hit. I recall seeing discussion about how silly the car is, even during the height of his popularity.

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Post by qwerpy »

IntelMiner wrote: post #204
qwerpy wrote: post #110

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CT driver here. I didn't even get one for the attention. I thought it was cool-looking, useful, and could make for a good family car. I was right! I'm an introvert so the constant attention (almost all positive, even in the Seattle area, surprisingly) was definitely an adjustment for me. Trust me, I'd be perfectly fine without the constant attention but people just keep giving it! Now I actually kind of enjoy it. My…

As a fellow Seattleite, I'm excited to see it rust to hell now that it's raining more and more

My CT spent lot of time at a house by the ocean in island county the past few months. Trying my best to see if it’ll rust! No luck yet.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by throwaway48476 »

kalleboo wrote: post #233
bko wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a simpler explanation is that terminally online people just don't like the politics of the CEO and like to take any chance to dunk on him. In a world that has been stagnant for decades in terms of design and doing things out the box, it's something at least trying to be different. Don't get all the hate

Even car people who agree with the CEO's politics dunk on it - see WhistlinDiesel

That's not a car person.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by hcarvalhoalves »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

I feel Tesla is a US bubble. Despite all the disproportionate media this brand and it’s CEO gets, in my country I haven’t even seen one in the street yet, but I see EV Volvo, Renault, Fiat, BYD, GWM and others daily.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by matthewdgreen »

hindsightbias wrote: post #62
sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

Years ago I got a rental that was some new hideous looking 4-door Fiat model. Maybe a 500L or something. They were taking off the plastic wrap when I got it. It was a week of beating off people approaching me and asking about it. It looked weird, I thought people wanted to beat me up but they were genuinely curious about it. That some weird truck with a formerly 3 year waiting list is at the top of the charts a coupl…

I went through this with my Model 3 back in 2018, when they were still rare in my area. Random people would approach me in super market parking lots, everyone at my gym wanted a ride in it. Now it's like driving a Toyota or a BMW, there are tons on the road and nobody bats an eyelid.
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