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Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by silverliver »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #243
silverliver wrote: post #240

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Is there any phone that runs mainline Linux/upstream Debian, and is available to buy right now? I'm sick of big companies who removed the word Consent from their dictionaries. I want something I can own and trust again. Being able to run android apps would be great, but given how closed source Android has become, I doubt that apps run on an open system would be reliable.

100% mainline - not really yet, but from those that are close to mainline and on which you can run Mobian (which is upstream Debian with a small repo overlay for stuff not ready to go into Debian proper yet) and that you can buy new right now are Librem 5, PinePhone and PinePhone Pro. If second market also counts then there are a few more options available - mostly former Android phones where hardware support is spot…

Thank you for this helpful explanation! Hopefully one of these three will be will be good enough for my needs.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by LtWorf »

GranPC wrote: post #206
Vinnl wrote: post #200

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I think I've seen multiple references to Phosh.

It is Phosh. It can run Plasma Mobile too, but I'm told it's still a bit early in development.

I've used phosh and plasma mobile and honestly I can't understand why would anyone put phosh by default.

It's much much slower (and ugly, which doesn't help)

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by whizzter »

usr1106 wrote: post #239
tuukkah wrote: post #208

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I've never heard of BankID in Finland - perhaps the common name is something else?

I would also have commented: Not supported in Finland. I think I have read articles that they tried to get marketing share, but AFAIK they have failed completely. On the positive side in Finland you can use SIM Toolkit for legally sanctioned 2FA (mobiilivarmenne). That should be much easier to implement without having Google involved.

Interesting, seems OP bank and Nordea allows logins/registrations from their own and other banks ID apps (all separate though). Vero and Kela allows logins from mobiilivarmenne and all the bank identifiers via the tunnistautuminen.suomi.fi service.

I guess it's the opposite to what happened in Sweden where Telia was the only mobile provider that had an identity solution (that had any uptake), but afaik gave up due to the omnipresence of BankID that is a streamlined system supported by all the major banks.

As a private sector application developer, would one integrate with MV, the suomi.fi portal or is it a fragmented system?

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by chainingsolid »

LtWorf wrote: post #252
GranPC wrote: post #206

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It is Phosh. It can run Plasma Mobile too, but I'm told it's still a bit early in development.

I've used phosh and plasma mobile and honestly I can't understand why would anyone put phosh by default. It's much much slower (and ugly, which doesn't help)

On my pinephone Phosh feels faster than Plasma Mobile.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by usr1106 »

whizzter wrote: post #253
usr1106 wrote: post #239

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I would also have commented: Not supported in Finland. I think I have read articles that they tried to get marketing share, but AFAIK they have failed completely. On the positive side in Finland you can use SIM Toolkit for legally sanctioned 2FA (mobiilivarmenne). That should be much easier to implement without having Google involved.

Interesting, seems OP bank and Nordea allows logins/registrations from their own and other banks ID apps (all separate though). Vero and Kela allows logins from mobiilivarmenne and all the bank identifiers via the tunnistautuminen.suomi.fi service. I guess it's the opposite to what happened in Sweden where Telia was the only mobile provider that had an identity solution (that had any uptake), but afaik gave up due to…

Sorry, I am not familiar how to address the issue from a developer perspective. All bigger services offer id via all banks plus mobile certificate. I believe the mobile certificate service is backed by Telia, even if your SIM is from another operator. Infamously Moi does not even offer the service at all.

Whether the banks have any common backend/provider or you need to deal with all of them sperately I don't know.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by chainingsolid »

psd1 wrote: post #248
ranguna wrote: post #221

Does the usb c support displayport alt mode? How's the performance compared to a Linux vm running on a pixel 9 with kvm? Android 15 recently released, which brought support for graphical acceleration inside the vm, so that's one competitor for the Linux phone.

The reg article suggests not: > ...then the next planned feature is wireless display support. At present, you can't dock the phone and use it as a PC with a keyboard and mouse, which is a shame. Apparently, the IO lines needed for a wired dock were used for the macro camera. https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/26/furi_phone_flx1_debia...

Ouch, My first thought on seeing the hardware specs was it would be better than my Pinephone with my lapdock... This is a deal breaker for me.

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by ranguna »

chainingsolid wrote: post #256
psd1 wrote: post #248

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The reg article suggests not: > ...then the next planned feature is wireless display support. At present, you can't dock the phone and use it as a PC with a keyboard and mouse, which is a shame. Apparently, the IO lines needed for a wired dock were used for the macro camera. https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/26/furi_phone_flx1_debia...

Ouch, My first thought on seeing the hardware specs was it would be better than my Pinephone with my lapdock... This is a deal breaker for me.

Yep same

Re: Furilabs Linux Phone

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Post by juliangoldsmith »

forgotacc240419 wrote: post #218
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #63

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Does anyone have NixOS+Halium working?

Possibly the OnePlus 6? This isn't an area I'm too well versed on though

The OnePlus 6 can run mainline Linux, though apparently audio in calls drops sometimes. [0]

0: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchil...

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