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Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

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Post by yodsanklai »

wojciii wrote: post #185
Plasmoid wrote: post #68

I wonder if engineers are going to start refusing to do on-call. "Sorry, it's going to take me an hour to get to the office because I'm not allowed to work remotely".

On call? I never had to do any kind of support of any of the software products that I worked on. Why would you waste eng time on something as trivial as support? Is this an American corporate thing?

Oncall isn't user support. Amazon (and a lot of services) are supposed to work correctly even outside of office hours and someone needs to be able to fix things. That's one downside of software as a service.

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Post by dividefuel »

pton_xd wrote: post #10

I think this was a pretty obvious end-goal when they required everyone to relocate back to Seattle and go in 3 days a week. As a tangent, everyone I know at Amazon is over-worked and stressed out. I legitimately don't know anyone whose happy there. How is that a sustainable corporate culture?

I thought 3 days/week would settle as the equilibrium -- enough to maintain real estate value while still paying lip service to employee wishes, and still achieving the stealth layoff of blocking full remote work.

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Post by walrushunter »

dbliss wrote: post #45
allenrb wrote: post #25

So AMZN wants to have layoffs without using the word?

"So, we’re asking each s-team organization to increase the ratio of individual contributors to managers by at least 15% by the end of Q1 2025.." .. manager layoffs coming too.

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Post by yodsanklai »

jmclnx wrote: post #74

I wonder if there are any exemptions. But I am sure the best talent can easilly find work at Microsoft, Oracle and or IBM without any issues.

For the same level of compensation? near their home? do these company offer remote/hybrid position to new joiners? do they even hire at the moment?

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Post by sharemywin »

_heimdall wrote: post #222
VBprogrammer wrote: post #152

So any time Amazon make any noise about doing something "for the environment" you can basically just point out they are full of shit. It probably takes a dozen electric cars to offset the carbon saving of just not going into the office.

That's a really difficult comparison to nail down and is heavily dependent on assumptions you make of the alternate reality you compare against. Does Amazon shutdown all of their office buildings completely? Do employees still leave home and work out of shared office spaces that they prefer to home or the Amazon campus? How do you factor in things like HVAC costs for individual home offices versus a main campus build…

I was curious to see what o1 thought:

Order of Magnitude Assessment

"Bad" for the Environment: Emitting nearly 3 metric tons of CO₂ annually from commuting alone is significant. Potential for Reduction: Eliminating or reducing car commutes can substantially lower an individual's carbon footprint.

I didn't post all the calculations and rebuttals because I figured it would pollute the conversation but there's the nut of it.

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Post by spacemadness »

keeptrying wrote: post #234

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This reads like something Amazons PR team came up with. “Train yourself to work a solid 8 hours a day” what are you even talking about? Remote workers do this now and aren’t lazy. The assumptions you have are conpletely out of touch with reality and insulting.
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