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Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by isaacdaoust »

ragazzina wrote: post #233
isaacdaoust wrote: post #195

Notably absent hobby in the article is music. I'm currently working on a website that will function as a "hobby app" for digital music/album collection. https://discollect.app my public profile: https://discollect.app/profile/clo0oz2hw0005fv02qbxn866c

There used to be an app called JQBX and at least one beautiful community came from it. It's not mantained anymore though.

Oh this is super cool. I actually started designing another project that's very similar to JQBX last week. Perfect time for me to see this. And the connection with Discollect will be that you can only queue tracks from albums you've collected, which hopefully encourages music discovery.

Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by older »

moi2388 wrote: post #227
older wrote: post #202

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I'm more interested to know how this secret bunch of people links all that to arrest of Telegram's CEO (who is a French citizen) in France. Sounds like a regular conspiracy theory and claims like "we all know..." just give more of the same conspiracy vibe.

Haha alright. Easy there. I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, nor is it ‘a bunch of secret people’. It’s well documented that France is fighting with Wagner in their former colonies, as well as Russia undermining their influence there. It’s also well documented that Wagner and Russian troops mainly use Telegram for communication, same as in Ukraine. Again, well documented. And these messages are stored on Russian…

> Telegram was completely fine to use in France, until Wagner started causing issues in Africa and then it suddenly became a problem.

This statement is demonstrably untrue.

Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by t-3 »

aguaviva wrote: post #248
t-3 wrote: post #213

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Yeah, I highly doubt Russian soldiers/mercenaries using Telegram is the main reason France went after Durov, but the conflicts and influence wars between Russia and colonialist powers in Africa is well-known and has been happening for a while.

The conflicts and influence wars between Russia and colonialist powers in Africa is well-known and has been happening for a while. That the conflicts are well-known and have been happening for a while is quite true of course. But this bizarre framing of these conflicts as "between Russia and colonialist powers" (as if Russia was not also a colonial power, or its influence games in Africa were any different from those…

Russia is not a colonial power though. The empire and later the USSR conquered a lot of land, but that was contiguous. Even if you try to argue that all imperial and Soviet expansion was colonial, Russia never colonized Africa and can't be considered a colonial power there.

Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by aguaviva »

t-3 wrote: post #253
aguaviva wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conflicts and influence wars between Russia and colonialist powers in Africa is well-known and has been happening for a while. That the conflicts are well-known and have been happening for a while is quite true of course. But this bizarre framing of these conflicts as "between Russia and colonialist powers" (as if Russia was not also a colonial power, or its influence games in Africa were any different from those…

Russia is not a colonial power though. The empire and later the USSR conquered a lot of land, but that was contiguous. Even if you try to argue that all imperial and Soviet expansion was colonial, Russia never colonized Africa and can't be considered a colonial power there.

Russia is not a colonial power though.

But indeed it was, and this is an extremely basic fact of its history. It wasn't run on exactly the same model as the overseas empires of the Western European states, but its modus operandi absolutely fits the definition of a "colonial empire" per the definition in Wikipedia:

   A colonial empire is a collective of territories (often called colonies), either contiguous with the imperial center or located overseas, settled by the population of a certain state and governed by that state.
The empire and later the USSR conquered a lot of land, but that was contiguous.

This idea that conquest can't be called a "colony" (or that territorial contiguity has anything to do with the definition of the term) is just silly. As if the American States didn't promptly set out to settle and colonize the West after 1789 (because these places were contiguous to it), or Germany didn't very explicitly set out to colonize Poland in 1939, and so on.

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Post by consteval »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #3

Can't be overstated how good having a setting centered on some common activity with low stakes social interaction is for building relationships, romantic as well as platonic. Hookup culture just isn't for everyone, and the notion that it is has been the cause of a lot of grief and agony.

> Hookup culture just isn't for everyone, and the notion that it is has been the cause of a lot of grief and agony

I'm sorry, but how could you possibly think this is the case? Hookup culture is still very fringe, wildly looked down upon.

Humanity has had a purity culture for the past few hundred years. Sex has been a tool to oppress and shame. To this day, this purity culture continues. Women are slut shamed. Gay men are perceived as disgusting by proxy of their sexual inclinations. Kinks must never be spoken out loud.

Sex is still not talked about. We bead around the bush, play innuendos. Speaking directly about what you desire in the bedroom is almost unthinkable. Some married people endure years of subpar sex, when simple communication could fix it.

Where is this hookup culture? Because if I talk to 10 random people about my hookups, in even a very surface-level amount of detail, what responses would I get?

I get disgust, pearl-clutching. I am a whore, a slut, no cleaner than a pig and practically begging to get AIDS. In fact, AIDS might just be a good thing, to rid the world of immoral scum.

Do you see that same level of reaction to proclaims of marriage and romance? Because I don't. Not sure where you live, but if this is your definition of "hookup culture" and you truly believe it's been pushed on everyone... maybe I should move to wherever you are. But I've never seen or heard of such a place.

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Post by consteval »

SunlitCat wrote: post #57
mhh__ wrote: post #28

Anecdotally run clubs are the dance halls of today (i.e. go to meet women)

Actually many sport activities seem to be largely women based, which kinda says much about men not really caring about their health. :)

I don't think this is necessarily the case. All the gyms I've been to have been majority men, like 80%+.

I think the "activities" part plays a role. I think a lot of men today struggle with socializing, especially with groups that have a good chunk of women. They feel like they don't belong and are acutely aware of how they can be perceived.

The gym, on the other hand, is a pretty isolated thing.

Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by consteval »

Beijinger wrote: post #134
ta1243 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk has a selective view of what free speech means. His view of free speech is different to the majority of people reading that article, seems reasonable to put quotes around it.

Is it? I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is that you have the right to have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion? And as long as you don't violate any ToS (e.g. Hackernews, as a private enterprise or organization) or laws (kill XYZ type of people) you are within the rights of "free speech".

> stupid, ugly or wrong opinion

You can only have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion so long as Musk shares it. Luckily Musk is uniquely dumb, so that covers most awful takes you can have, perhaps giving the perception of free speech.

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Post by Futurebot »

isaacdaoust wrote: post #195

Notably absent hobby in the article is music. I'm currently working on a website that will function as a "hobby app" for digital music/album collection. https://discollect.app my public profile: https://discollect.app/profile/clo0oz2hw0005fv02qbxn866c

Cool idea. Are you planning to add profile photo, description, and location support like Letterboxd has? Maybe messaging?

Also, is there a way to find who else has listened to what I've listened to?

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Post by ikr678 »

CM30 wrote: post #218
Der_Einzige wrote: post #117

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All the fun spaces on the internet are extremely male dominated. I strongly believe in the autism as extreme male brain hypothesis for this reason. Discord especially is such a sausage fest. Sad to see it kill web forums (which I suppose were all sausage fests)

It's very much a matter of what topic the forum or Discord server is about to be honest. My experience is that anything particularly tech orientated skews very heavily male, while more arts and crafts esque topics tend to skew more female. So I suspect for many people here (including myself), the communities we're interested in tend to be male dominated simply because tech in general tends to be.

There is usually little to no value in revealing that you are a woman in these spaces.

Re: Have ‘hobby’ apps become the new social networks?

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Post by Beijinger »

consteval wrote: post #257
Beijinger wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? I always thought the uttermost definition of "Free speech" is that you have the right to have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion? And as long as you don't violate any ToS (e.g. Hackernews, as a private enterprise or organization) or laws (kill XYZ type of people) you are within the rights of "free speech".

> stupid, ugly or wrong opinion You can only have a stupid, ugly or wrong opinion so long as Musk shares it. Luckily Musk is uniquely dumb, so that covers most awful takes you can have, perhaps giving the perception of free speech.

That is his right. It is his company. You don't have the right to free speech on another man's property.

You have the right to be an antisemite. But just please not in my house, I may ask you to leave.

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