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Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by 23B1 »

topato wrote: post #165
23B1 wrote: post #145

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> Price is a barrier to entry for many users who wouldn't have paid for the software. This is what demos, student licenses, etc. are for. I don't care what your justification is, property theft is wrong.

Haha, yeah, I'm pretty sure there would be a hell of a lot less working professionals using the Adobe suite today if we had all used Adobe's generous 14-day trial to get to grips with Photoshop or Flash or Dreamweaver when we were 12 or 13 years old. Or enrolled in University, I guess? I would expect Adobe would be nothing but a forgotten brand name list to the annals of time at this point, considering their Suite ha…

Yeah Adobe sucks which is why I use alternatives.

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Post by RockRobotRock »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #167
throwaway48476 wrote: post #138

Can this be used to enable the HEVC extension without a M$ account? It's so frustrating they can't license the patents as a lump sum.

Why would you need it? HEVC codec ships with the driver package from your GPU vendor.

Why didn’t that work for me? I have an nvidia gpu

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by appendix-rock »

38 wrote: post #118
ryx wrote: post #91

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Yep. This seems to be the most overlooked part of the article, although maybe the most interesting. Unfortunately not for anyone who has activated the auto-update feature on his/her Xbox, as the latest system software version seems to include a higher kernel version than supported by the collateral-damage exploit.

Exactly why you should never, ever, enable auto update, for anything. Too often it ends up breaking something or patching something you don't want patched. It allows a profit seeking company to enable or disable software functionality on your device, regardless if it's in your interest.

Absurd. There are benefits to enabling auto-updating (security, etc). One should weigh up the costs / benefits oneself and make a call based on that. As usual, such absolutist guidance is hyperbolic.

Re: Keyhole – Forge own Windows Store licenses

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Post by beeboobaa3 »

lupusreal wrote: post #232
beeboobaa3 wrote: post #217

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Sure and today it's games, and tomorrow it'll be something you care about.

Yeah so give money to the companies that do it, that'll show them! Boycotting those products is capitulation somehow, because brain damage.

You're making a lot of weird assumptions here, and seem to have completely missed the point I am making.

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Post by thot_experiment »

ndriscoll wrote: post #246
thot_experiment wrote: post #244

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While sibling comment is correct about the discussion I do have a few VPS I've had around for a while ( I suspect it's because I don't use many common software packages so the attack surface is small-ish.

What's difficult about managing keys? I use key login with termux and if anything it's easier because typing passwords (or anything) on a phone is tedious. Agree in general that people wildly overestimate the risk leaving things alone. e.g. nginx hasn't had a security advisory affecting basic http 1.1 serving static content without TLS in many years. And of course desktops are behind stateful firewalls.

For me a big appeal of having a "home" environment on a VPS is that I can just do useful things from any computer-like device, that's not really possible with keys. Rather than fucking around with keys I can just SSH in from wherever and roll the password when I'm done. High entropy non shared passwords are just fine, you'll get your IP timed out after a couple attempts, nobody is throwing a botnet at bruteforcing my pass.

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Post by appendix-rock »

emeril wrote: post #206
thot_experiment wrote: post #189

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Yup, 100%. My golden rule of computers is: If it's working right now, an update can only cause it to break. The best case scenario is that it still works. Why would your roll the dice?

so true - the few who are at risk of real exploits are already aware of this and do more than just system updates I only let my browser autoupdate (somewhat reluctantly) since I view that as the most likely security issue on my winpc but when I used to let win10 autoupdate (and other garbage dell drivers), things would start breaking after each update this also applies to phone app updates - I only update if there's…

> the few that are at risk…

Boxes get popped all the time. Why are you painting such a dishonest picture?

> and people wonder why I have the best working phone and pc at the office...

Probably because you know about computers. Nothing to do with your poor security practice.

And this still doesn’t say anything about the explicitly absolutist advice in the parent comment. “No matter the circumstance, turn auto-update off! Just in case you want to partake in some piracy!”

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Post by FatalLogic »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #224
libertine wrote: post #93

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Yes, but I think it works exceptionally for other software, like games! One example that stands out was the hacking/modding scene of the GTA Vice City with Multi Theft Auto, and even GTA SA, which gained a massive player base that would have never experienced the game and created emotional bonds with it. I can't prove this of course, but I bet a huge portion of the GTA V success was from users who played a moded vers…

Very nice utopian ideals, but wrong. Take World of Goo . Very popular game. Released in 2008; got a sequel in 2024. Why so long for a sequel? In part, because when they experimented with a DRM-free release, they had a piracy rate of over 90%. Can you prove that's lost sales? No. Would any reasonable person say that is lost sales? Absolutely. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2008/11/acrying-shame-world-o... Ever wonder…

>Take World of Goo. Very popular game. Released in 2008; got a sequel in 2024. Why so long for a sequel? In part, because when they experimented with a DRM-free release, they had a piracy rate of over 90%. Can you prove that's lost sales? No. Would any reasonable person say that is lost sales? Absolutely.

And seems like they learned nothing from this terrible experience, because they've also released World of Goo 2 DRM-free: https://worldofgoo2.com/

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Post by l33t7332273 »

thot_experiment wrote: post #230
trog wrote: post #218

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If you look at the background radiation of the Internet of automated things just hitting services to probe for exploits, they are most commonly looking for exploits from bugs in older software. There's a timing argument - that unless you're at risk of zero days (like you're the DOD) - that you probably don't need to upgrade immediately. But it seems unarguable to me that the longer you wait, the greater the risk from…

How many actual zerodays are there that don't require you to ALSO be doing something dumb per year? It seems exceedingly rare. I understand the argument if you're talking about like, a server running some CMS or whatever, sure that's gonna get pwned because it's a big target so it's worth going after. Your natted personal machine? You're fine unless you're running executable off random russian sites (and even then yo…

There was that Windows IPv6 no click zero day within the last couple of weeks

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Post by hobs »

23B1 wrote: post #249
123pie123 wrote: post #169

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it is NOT 'property theft', since nothing has been stolen, just copied the term you want is Copyright infringement

My time and labor is my property.

And nobody copying your work can take those away from you.
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