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You do know it's about the people who stormed government buildings in a riot to overthrow the government? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_atta... Musk ist protecting the Brazil version of the January 6 rioters of the US.

Your making the claim that all of the secret censorship decrees issues by Alexandre de Moraes are related to the protests after the election in 2023, they are not.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ultimately these decisions are made by Linda Yaccarino, CEO of X. And who is her boss, again?

Maybe you're being facetious but, CEOs report to shareholders as a sort of collective boss. Loads of shareholders in Twitter listed here https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-investors-elon-musks-x-re... (needs ad-block) and Elmo is a big shareholder.

Not a "big" shareholder but the largest shareholder and chairman of its board.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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I remain surprised at how casually people will step over the free speech dead body so they can hate on people the media at large has maligned. Regardless of what you think of Musk, where's your outrage over this blatant authoritarianism?

Is it acceptable for foreign owned entities to not follow the rules of a country? I think, probably not - the choice is to follow the regulations or to not be there, like Meta in China.

Alexandre de Moraes whims are now considered the "rules of the country", how quickly Brazil turned into a dictatorship.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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post #108

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You do know it's about the people who stormed government buildings in a riot to overthrow the government? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_atta... Musk ist protecting the Brazil version of the January 6 rioters of the US.

Actually, I don't. This is not public information, and hearsay goes on several different directions. Yours is only one of those.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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It was not banned for racism, antisemitism and hate speech. It was banned for "fake news". As determined by our very own Ministry of Truth. Which is literally headed by the judge-king responsible for this circus. These guys are what happens when xkcd/386 acquires god-king powers. If I were to follow the same logic as these judges, I would call for your comment to be deleted and for your account to be suspended. After…

You mean the fake news that lead to this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_atta...

I mean people's speech. Whether their speech is "fake" or not is up to me to determine. I don't want any ministries of truth determining that for me. Especially not one manned by these partisan judges.

And "this" as in a protest? Like countless others before? Whatever. You're not gonna call it a coup, right? Even the Wikipedia article you cited doesn't call it one.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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One of the linked articles said it boiled down to X being ordered to censor political opponents of those in power. They chose not to. I’m glad. Now, traffic is going to Bluesky. I wonder if this means that Bluesky has or will be offered the same choice. We might see what the character of that organization is by what choice they make.

It boiled down to X not taking down accounts associated with individuals with outstanding warrants who were inciting violence. Brazilian law requires X to do so.

Including a sitting senator and a pastor... [1]

[1] https://x.com/AlexandreFiles/status/1829979981130416479

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It boiled down to X not taking down accounts associated with individuals with outstanding warrants who were inciting violence. Brazilian law requires X to do so.

Including a sitting senator and a pastor... [1] [1] https://x.com/AlexandreFiles/status/1829979981130416479

Are senators or pastors above the law?

Go read the decision: https://www.conjur.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/PET-124...

More generally, one doesn't get to say "No, judge, I won't comply with your decision" without repercussions.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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That the tide turned against Musk when he undid the old Twitter censorship regime which was targeted towards primarily American conservatives. Since then, a lot of folks, including here and on major subreddits like news and politics, have openly wished harm on the site and on Musk. Here Musk was pushing back on illegal [1] censorship, and many people on this thread are celebrating the authoritarian judge responsible.

Lots of pro-censorship people on HN. Remember what happened to Brendan Eich? [2]

[1] https://x.com/AlexandreFiles/status/1829979981130416479

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7525198

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