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Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Re: Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by diggan »

eks391 wrote: post #227
diggan wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. Which led to people like me making a fool out of themselves. Always been using Android, and listened to iPhone users singing the praise of the amazing UI and UX of iOS. Well, eventually iPhone 12 Mini released so I figured, "why not give it a try, can't be worse than my…

I've used a few apple products -- the iPhone 3 was my first smartphone, and an iPad mini back when tablets were starting out. At the time of the switch to android, I didn't think too much of it, but definitely enjoyed the customisation. A couple years ago I was gonna get a new phone and, half my family being Apple devotees, I was considering switching again so I could stop hearing the 'blue bubble' nagging, plus they…

> I can't imagine being locked in till it dies, because as you said, the iPhone is such a miserable product. I'm sure you could resell and get a flagship for a similar price. You'd still net loss, but IMO it would be better than keeping the phone since you don't like it.

I'm not locked to it but honestly I spend so little time on my phone that it's one of the smaller problems in my life. I do despise it, but not enough to sell it before I can't use it anymore.

Re: Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by diggan »

talldayo wrote: post #250
diggan wrote: post #247

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> You cannot sideload apps that are Open Source. You cannot install emulators or fullspeed VM software. You cannot switch the browser out for one you would prefer with controls amenable to your satisfaction. Worth noting that while this used to be true, those things are now/soon geofenced features that only Europeans get to enjoy. Too bad if you happen to live in the home country of Apple.

I don't believe you're allowed to run fullspeed VM software or JIT-enabled browsers, even with the DMA. Nothing has been super set-in-stone yet, but those are the terms Apple is intent on promoting.

The intention is for people to be able to run whatever software they want, and Apple is currently figuring out if EU wants Apple to follow the intent of the law, or the letter. We'll see how it goes but I wouldn't hold my breath for Apple to get their will.

Re: Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by qingcharles »

zackmorris wrote: post #237
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #82

> I would contact Apple, if there was a feedback option, but there isn’t There is: https://feedbackassistant.apple.com/ That said, it isn’t very user-friendly, and I find that they don’t seem to pay much attention to it. When they do respond, it tends to be some form of “#wontfix. Please close this.” That looks like a fairly ugly little bug. I suspect they know about it now, thanks to the HN Bug Reporter. It tends to…

As a policy, I tell the world about (non-exploit) bugs from billion dollar corporations, but I report bugs directly to small businesses. This creates an incentive for the big players to improve their process and proactively catch bugs. I've seen bugs reported to Apple's bug reporter get fixed in subsequent OS versions, but almost never in updates to the current or previous ones. This is a fundamental flaw with their…

I do like single-dev apps. There are two apps I use regularly, and I have Discord open to the developers of both. They are always happy to receive bug reports (because so few report) and often open the code while I'm talking to them to figure out the problem.

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Post by klausa »

>Maybe the UI coordinate system is using floats and a rounding error aggregated over many days

It's using floats on 32bit (...which means only the watchOS currently, I guess?) and doubles elsewhere.

Are there any modern UI frameworks that _don't_ use floats/doubles?

I was gonna guess CSS, but even that has supported sub-pixel precisions on HiDPI displays for a while now.

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5709698/html-sub-pixel-b...

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Post by throwaway48476 »

diggan wrote: post #169
PaulHoule wrote: post #163

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Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. The thoughtlessness/pixel ratio might be worse than Microsoft in some cases, which can be hard to believe.

> Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. Which led to people like me making a fool out of themselves. Always been using Android, and listened to iPhone users singing the praise of the amazing UI and UX of iOS. Well, eventually iPhone 12 Mini released so I figured, "why not give it a try, can't be worse than my…

UI is designed by designers for designers. Then management and marketing. End users are a tertiary consideration.

Yes I'm bitter about the Jetbrains New UI abomination.

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Post by qingcharles »

layer8 wrote: post #140
DavidPiper wrote: post #104

Comically, I didn't even notice those wobbly numbers in the first screenshot, I was too busy noticing: - "Unicode" button label way off center - The 8/10/16 selector being off center in its own position - The indicators for bits 31 and 63 are not aligned with each other - x and + not being horizontally aligned (I believe this is an icon-font issue, seen on HN before so knew to look for it)

Arguably it also should be “1s’” instead of “1’s”. ;)

I'd agree with that. I wonder if it was a conscious decision to make it not look like 1 second or something?

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Post by saagarjha »

diggan wrote: post #169
PaulHoule wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. The thoughtlessness/pixel ratio might be worse than Microsoft in some cases, which can be hard to believe.

> Apple's greatest weakness is that many of it's fans and I'd assume people in house assume they are the epitome of UI design when actually it's not. Which led to people like me making a fool out of themselves. Always been using Android, and listened to iPhone users singing the praise of the amazing UI and UX of iOS. Well, eventually iPhone 12 Mini released so I figured, "why not give it a try, can't be worse than my…

You can answer the call and switch back to Maps while the call continues, right?

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Post by oluminate »

bqmjjx0kac wrote: post #194
jb1991 wrote: post #96

On mobile devices, Apple’s Calculator app has always been one of the most frustrating apps I’ve ever used, and I’m surprised it’s a stock app by the company itself. If you press buttons quickly, like you would a normal calculator, many of the key presses simply don’t register at all. I’m not sure if they’re prioritizing some pretty little visual animation over actual functionality, but it’s incredibly surprising from…

I switched to an iPhone a few years ago and I really miss the Android calculator app. It showed the entire expression typed so far and its current value! In desperation, I have resorted to SSHing to my desktop and using `python` as a calculator.

You can use Siri Search on iOS as a calculator, which works the same way as Finder on a Mac — this keeps track of the entire expression when you’re doing it

Re: Is my vision that bad? No, it's just a bug in Apple's Calculator

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Post by qingcharles »

DavidPiper wrote: post #104

Comically, I didn't even notice those wobbly numbers in the first screenshot, I was too busy noticing: - "Unicode" button label way off center - The 8/10/16 selector being off center in its own position - The indicators for bits 31 and 63 are not aligned with each other - x and + not being horizontally aligned (I believe this is an icon-font issue, seen on HN before so knew to look for it)

God, the more you look, the more you find. It's actually horrible.

Also, the "32" label sits directly centered under the bit above it, but literally none of the others do, they're wherever-the-fuck.

The x, + etc don't look centered vertically either -- compared to the numbers to the left of them.

2's and 1's look like they are a different font size to everything else.

The padding on the buttons at the top is hideous -- the downstroke on the y almost touches the outside of the button.

I fear how awful this looks in localized versions, if they made any.

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Post by xanderlewis »

xanderlewis wrote: post #95
ahoka wrote: post #81

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Doctors would say the stupidest things. We are not “designed” for anything.

Evolution by natural selection of often regarded (somewhat by analogy) as a process of ‘design’. If you like, replace ‘designed for’ with ‘suited to’.

'of' --> 'is', of course.
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