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Lynn Conway has died

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Re: Lynn Conway has died

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docmars wrote: post #210
not_alexb wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The trans activists don't want that. Equal treatment and tolerance isn't enough for them, they demand dominance above all else. Equal treatment and tolerance.. Ever since I started transitioning, people have treated me much worse, and I live in a so called liberal city. My pharmacist looks at me like I'm a freak. I've had slurs thrown at me several times while I'm just out minding my business. Half my family wont e…

Outside of calling it hate, why do you think people even in the most "allied" places respond to you in that way? Do you think perhaps they're afraid they may be helping an activist who may deem their services unacceptable? The track record has it that in these situations, service providers are at a major disadvantage, if anything remotely goes wrong during their interactions. If activists belonging to protected class…

Why do service providers who provide inadequate service need protection? They choose to be shitty service providers and they suffer the consequences. Basic free-market right there bud - either the market wants the same thing as the activists and money, prestige, etc flow to those who agree with the activists, or the market doesn't want it and those service providers who the activists are happy with fails.

Re: Lynn Conway has died

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Post by ncm140 »

ncm140 wrote: post #253

One of the world's most inspiring people. I had the privilege of getting to know her to write a profile for a University of Michigan alumni magazine more than a decade ago: https://news.engin.umich.edu/2014/10/life-engineered/

My favorite thing she said was "Why not question everything?" It stuck with me ever since.

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Post by siloso »

sterlind wrote: post #234
nineplay wrote: post #95

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I appreciate her making the effort to tell her story. I struggle sometimes to understand what it means when people say they feel born in the wrong gender. They way she describes it - not just about wanting to do 'girl' things but wanting to be soft and round and feminine - is eye-opening for me.

As much as "trapped in the wrong body" is a cliché, the physical aspect of gender dysphoria is profound, and often overlooked. I don't care about competing in women's sports, or what locker room I had to use. I cared about my body becoming grotesque and alien to me, and became overwhelmed with how profoundly wrong it felt. It's not that I want to look like a girl so I can be treated like one - I want to look like a g…

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Re: Lynn Conway has died

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Post by ncm140 »

whoknowsidont wrote: post #231

I'm ashamed to say I did not know about this person before today; what an interesting life she led. A true giant both for industry and people. Shame on all of "us" for missing the date.

It's such a tragedy. She has an explanation, called "The Conway Effect."

She wrote about it 2018.

"When “others” (such as women and people of color) make innovative contributions in scientific and technical fields, they often “disappear” from later history and their contributions are ascribed elsewhere. This is seldom deliberate—rather, it’s a result of the accumulation of advantage by those who are expected to innovate. This article chronicles an example of such a disappearance and introduces the Conway Effect to elucidate the disappearance process."

https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/co/2018/10/mco2018100...

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Post by ncm140 »

sircastor wrote: post #223
bradneuberg wrote: post #218

Did Conway's Law originate with Lynn Conway?

No, Conway's Law[1] is attributed to Melvin Conway, a different computer Scientist. Also unrelated to either Lynn Conway, or Melvin Conway, is Conway's Life, which is named for John Conway[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway

But she coined "The Conway Effect"

When “others” (such as women and people of color) make innovative contributions in scientific and technical fields, they often “disappear” from later history and their contributions are ascribed elsewhere. This is seldom deliberate—rather, it’s a result of the accumulation of advantage by those who are expected to innovate. This article chronicles an example of such a disappearance and introduces the Conway Effect to elucidate the disappearance process.

https://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/co/2018/10/mco2018100...

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