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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by Justsignedup »

cletus wrote: post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

Sadly this will take off, and be tied to everything apple. From a tech perspective I would never use their tools even if they are the most convenient. But the reality is most people will see this as the only option for password management, and 1password isn't free, so for them they will see no better way out.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by lxgr »

selykg wrote: post #80
Bnjoroge wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? what's the name?

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/icloud-passwords/pe...

It's worth noting that this is Windows only, and needs you to install the iCloud native client there (which might not be an option on managed devices).

It doesn't work as a standalone Chrome extension in the way that 1Password or Bitwarden do, for example.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by lxgr »

sahila wrote: post #61
toddmorey wrote: post #45

This is welcome. Central password management really should be an OS feature. Drives me crazy that every browser I use has a different credentials store and sync service.

Why do you have the need to use different browsers? Use the one you like on all your devices is easy.

Not everybody appreciates platform lock-in (whether the platform is a browser or an OS).

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by lxgr »

Beijinger wrote: post #240
heinrich5991 wrote: post #211

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Bitwarden + cross-platform + free as in beer + free and open-source software Can't really comment on convenience, I moved from LastPass, but it has worked well for me.

I think I checked this. The self hosted wallet was tricky if I remember right.

There's a Docker image that has worked out of the box for me.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by sam_goody »

Maybe I don't want "whoever" to be able to get into every one of my accounts by coercing Apple to give access to all my passwords.

There are groups that can do that coercion (eg. US and CPC governments), and there may be support staff et all in Apple that can get the same access.

For the same reason, I was unhappy that Keychain.app is auto synced to iCloud (and as per a past thread, even if you disabled it it may be reset).

So, of course, I don't have to use their app. Except that I suspect it will be built into the OS in a way that makes it hard to avoid, such as Keychain.

I would love it if there was a way I could setup my self-hosted BitWarden instance to be as integrated as Keychain is, and not use Apple or Google for passwords.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by jurmous »

ttul wrote: post #194
cletus wrote: post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

If they haven’t already, I won’t be surprised if Apple creates a reasonable password app for Android and Windows specifically to address this concern. Fanning out to other platforms to enable customers to continue using Apple products is a decent strategy that probably does more to retain people within the Apple ecosystem than it does to enable a move away from Apple.

Apple already has a Windows iCloud password app and a Chrome extension https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/manage-passwo...

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by [deleted] »

cletus wrote: post #168

Here's Apple's big problem: it's not a replacement for so many alternatives because it isn't supported on all platforms. Safari? Not on Windows. Apple Music? This actually has a Windows client. I'm not sure how good it is. But Spotify supports Windows and even Linux. Apple Password Manager? Will this be tied to iCloud? Will I be able to use it on Android? If I no longer have an iPhone will it be a pain to maintain an…

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by e40 »

Marsymars wrote: post #243
e40 wrote: post #233

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I used it with my family and it's worth paying monthly for it. Passwords are so incredibly important. If I was hit by a car tomorrow, I know a huge chunk of my life is there for people to just pick up.

> If I was hit by a car tomorrow, I know a huge chunk of my life is there for people to just pick up. My wife and I have talked a bit about this recently but haven't implemented anything yet. (I use 1Password, and she doesn't have access other than a shared vault, and vice-versa with iCloud passwords.) One thing that gives me a bit of hesitation is from a security standpoint - if we have access to each other's accoun…

The information in 1PW is the most important information I have. I have a Yubikey because of that.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by lmz »

jftuga wrote: post #148

I've been using KeePassXC on Mac and Windows and sync them between each other with Unison[1]. I'd be curious to learn how others who are using KeePassXC are syncing there databases with iPhone. [1] https://gist.github.com/jftuga/0265e5403d56373662b9513d8816e...

Dropbox and KeePassium on the phone.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by quitit »

llamaimperative wrote: post #246
quitit wrote: post #220

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Seems to be the case that commenters do not know that Keychain Access exists. Apple has tried various approaches of surfacing this functionality (eg the passwords panel in Safari and again in iOS’s settings app). This just seems to be the app-agnostic way of providing this functionality to everyday users, and probably a good thing as platforms move away from passwords.

No, Keychain Access is just a terrible app. It is sufficiently terrible that I'm 100% aware of its existence and instead choose to pay for a less OS-integrated, but far better app.

> No, bla bla irrelevant comment.

No, the commenters I'm referring to are ones that think Apple including a password manager is anticompetitive lock in, and other similar comments that are clearly unaware that this is not new functionality.

Your comment has zero bearing on what I posted. Apple themselves use 1PW

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