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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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And the main question remains unanswered: why do they sell a whole device rather than an app?

The eye catching hardware is what made this project interesting. Would we be talking about this at all if it was just an app?

You can buy fully functional Android phones for less than $200, with better cameras, and battery life, and larger screens, and… well not a software-locked touch screen

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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My first instinct is to say "of course" my second instinct is to ask "who cares?".

Is it relevant whatsoever? Is the product relevant whatsoever? The answer to both seems categorically no at this point.

I really don't understand why this device is getting attention while hundreds of hardware products launched each year go mostly unnoticed. What am I missing here?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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My first instinct is to say "of course" my second instinct is to ask "who cares?". Is it relevant whatsoever? Is the product relevant whatsoever? The answer to both seems categorically no at this point. I really don't understand why this device is getting attention while hundreds of hardware products launched each year go mostly unnoticed. What am I missing here?

> What am I missing here?

AI.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Show me someone.

https://fashionjournal.com.au/life/millennials-gen-z-phone-c... https://www.forbes.com/sites/briannawiest/2019/11/04/millenn... https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-millennials-like-speaking-on-... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/26/whatsa... https://www.euruni.edu/blog/the-mute-generation-why-millenni... https://jeffjbutler.com/2019/04/02/why-millennials-dont-like... https://www.inc.com/john-brandon/why…

I'm a millennial and I hate talking on the phone, but I don't want to talk to a robot, either. Just give me the damn app with menus and stuff and I'll browse them at my convenience and then pick what I want.

And even if I did want to talk to a robot, I'd rather just use the gadget that I already have for talking into, not yet another thing to lug around, keep charged etc.

It really is completely pointless.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Apparently, TE knows this Rabbit person's background as we are talking about millions dollar business. TE's values here are questionable when they decide to go with this guy. As for OP1, packaging a tape effect when it can't produce good sound quality is a fraud. Sampling from FM? Check Klaus Schulze.. Music startups can certainly innovate, such as Roli (Seaboard and Rise), moog. make noise. Open source monome. and,…

I would love to know about any other device that ticks the boxes the OP-1 does: * Battery powered * Easily backpack portable * Standalone DAW * Piano layout * Physical knobs and keys * Sequencer * Screen (and accompanying UI) large enough to not feel incredibly cramped That's plenty of stuff that beats the OP-1 on plenty of these, but there just isn't much out there that hits all of them at once.

A Synthstrom Deluge arguably ticks those boxes, except perhaps for the "piano layout" (not that I think that makes much difference when you can't play either device like an actual piano, and at least the Deluge has a luscious isomorphic keyboard) and the large screen (though the screen isn't really the primary interface on the Deluge, taking a more supporting role of dynamic visual feedback to the real interface, which is pushing the physical buttons - you can get quite far on the Deluge without even looking at the screen.)

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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name one thing the rabbit can do that a smartphone can't.

I'd love for the iPod to come back. I have a small DAP, the Shanling M0, but it has not the iPod ergonomics. A phone can do what the DAP does, but not the way it does it. A better phone ergonomics would probably be a PDA. (I'm not defending Rabbit R1 and I think it's useless).

I am not sure how active it is still but there was a pretty healthy ipod modding community a few years back if you are eager for those ergonomics with modern functionality.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I saw this news and my reaction was, "Of course it is, doing anything else would be stupid." But that on its own doesn't mean it could just be a phone app if the hardware adds something useful to the way the user interacts with it. For example, old Sony mirrorless cameras just ran Android under the hood but the specific hardware is what made those products, not the OS. As a hardware person, both the Rabbit R1 and the…

To be frank, it’s sort of hard to see many devices that could be more useful than the modern “phone,” which btw the phone part is almost superfluous at present. Now the an always connected general purpose compute device with a nearly complete environmental sensor array, extraordinarily high resolution screen, integrated multilens camera array, capable of doing AR with LIDAR, etc etc. It’s difficult to imagine a more capable device. These “new” devices are reductionist and trying to tackle the non-problem of carrying these wonderful tricorders of 2024. Converging devices has been a theme for the last 20 years, and now it’s almost entirely been achieved. There may very well not be another class of devices forthcoming if you factor in the connected wearables with bio monitoring that are essentially extensions of the “phone.”

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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This is unsurprising - of course it runs AOSP, what else would you run on a MediaTek MT6765? Windows CE? Defintely not mainline Linux, thanks to PowerVR graphics[1] - the demo looked to smooth for 'no GPU driver'.

Ever since I saw that hardware, I've been wondering if it could be repurposed as a tiny phone with smart features, or as a 'connected' MP3 player. Pity it does not have a headphone jack.

[1] https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/MediaTek_MT6765

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

Considering their prior bit was NFTs, I wouldn’t feel too surprised by that feeling.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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post #194

I saw this news and my reaction was, "Of course it is, doing anything else would be stupid." But that on its own doesn't mean it could just be a phone app if the hardware adds something useful to the way the user interacts with it. For example, old Sony mirrorless cameras just ran Android under the hood but the specific hardware is what made those products, not the OS. As a hardware person, both the Rabbit R1 and the…

There was an attempt with folding phones. Is that taking off beyond the "I have too much money" crowd?

The Samsung Z Flip is about the same price as it's equivalent S24, they're not necessarily more expensive anymore.
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