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Spotify demonetizes all tracks under 1k streams

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Post by TomK32 »

defrost wrote: post #230
TomK32 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I buy my music at bandcamp and other sites. I always feel a bit angry if an artists doesn't offer a proper download for their music.

Whether or not you buy Only The Shit You Love by Damian Cowell's Disco Machine on bandcamp: https://damiancowell.bandcamp.com/album/only-the-shit-you-lo... you can get the "free" synced multi episode animated web comic from youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkRxIMJ3GpPH_NurdvJLL...

Wow, that's really Only the Shit I Love. It's now on my wishlist until my bank account allows to buy it.

Talking of Aussie bands: https://drunkmums.bandcamp.com/album/beer-baby and https://3pod.bandcamp.com/album/middleborough-rd

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Post by the_other »

FireInsight wrote: post #138
atoav wrote: post #54

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I am in a small and new band. In 2023 we earned roughly 500 Euros via Bandcamp (digital, physical and merch) 300 Euros selling merch on gigs 2000 Euros playing gigs 20 Cents on Spotify There is no monetary reason to be on spotify, the only reason we are on there is because fans asked.

This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

> Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I

It's great that BC still does BC Fridays... but if fans only buy music from BC on BC Fridays, BC will lose all revenue and will fold or resort to shitty tactics. BC are one of the few "good" businesses in this space, and have reached an impressive scale. I'd hate to see them fold. I reckon it's worth buying some music on normal days as well as BC Fridays.

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Post by ornornor »

FireInsight wrote: post #138
atoav wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am in a small and new band. In 2023 we earned roughly 500 Euros via Bandcamp (digital, physical and merch) 300 Euros selling merch on gigs 2000 Euros playing gigs 20 Cents on Spotify There is no monetary reason to be on spotify, the only reason we are on there is because fans asked.

This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

> All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where I can enjoy it without any streaming service taking it away from me.

Where do you get these FLACs? Do you have a pipeline/automated system or it’s done manually? Asking for a friend.

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Post by yreg »

aaaarc wrote: post #156
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

In case of smaller artists we'd be better off pirating music instead of helping cement Spotify's brand as a central platform. The only person losing money in this case is the platform holder so we could argue the decentralised aspect of piracy helps fighting monopolisation of the industry.

People use Spotify because it is comfortable and provides additional features liked by users. That has always been the only way to beat piracy.

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Post by GuB-42 »

Considering that according to what I can see online, artists get around $4 per 1000 streams, it doesn't look significant and it probably saves on processing fees.

One would need to be an artist with a lot of songs just under 1k to make it more than enough for a cup of coffee. The kind of money it isn't even worth the time putting songs on Spotify (it may be worth it for promotion though).

The general issue with underpaid artists remains but this particular case doesn't seem to matter much, in fact, if what they imply is true, it is arguably an improvement since what they save in processing fees will go to artists instead of banks.

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Post by altacc »

namanyayg wrote: post #245
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

Where do you store the files, how do you take your music with you on the go?

There are media servers you can host locally and Bandcamp has an app you can play music in.

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Post by [deleted] »

tgv wrote: post #149
asdof wrote: post #128

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I'd wager the income from playing gigs would be substantially lower if you weren't on Spotify.

Your arguments veers close to the "for exposure" payment. People don't go to indie concerts because of a spotify track. Nor to big name concerts. And 20 cents corresponds to around 50 to 100 plays according to the numbers mentioned here.

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Post by Cheezemansam »

poszlem wrote: post #231
Manheim wrote: post #216

Paying a nominal amount for each stream is one matter; however, compensating nothing for smaller quantities while you pay for larger amounts presents a fundamentally different issue. This scenario is akin to an author not receiving royalties for the first 1,000 books sold in a bookstore, or a manufacturer not being paid for the first 1,000 candy bars sold at a grocery store. Such practices can be equated with theft.…

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https://imgur.com/a/ssxiS6X

God. GPT is going to fucking ruin online discourse.

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Post by ioulaum »

I'm not sure the technical overhead is high enough to bother to do this... Unless the money made for it comes out to be too small to be worth bothering with after transfer fees.

It may be as someone else said, that there should just be a minimum threshold for payouts. Like, you get your money after it's at least reached $10 or $100.

Demonetizing the first 1000 streams is probably not a big deal, but it still sounds a little wrong.

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Post by the_other »

namanyayg wrote: post #245
FireInsight wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

Where do you store the files, how do you take your music with you on the go?

Not the poster you're replying to, but I acquire music the same ways as them.

a1) on my computer, in folders. I manage it using iTunes/Music, but could just as well use anything else, or do it manually. I also have Serato for DJing, which imports my iTunes/Music library xml to share the same collection.

a2) to be fair, in the past year, I've gotten lazy and started streaming from the band camp app for more recent purchases. I'm not DJing much these days.

b) I buy phones with a lot of storage and don't upgrade very often

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