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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

antisthenes wrote: post #222
Wytwwww wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy That's like deciding to never try beer after seeing some people getting blackout drunk. Of course, it's your choice and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but still a weird argument to make. A lot of things when taken to the extreme can lead to very negative outcomes, not exactly a good reason to penaliz…

> That's like deciding to never try beer after seeing some people getting blackout drunk. Out of all reasons to never try beer, this actually seems like a pretty good one? If my #1 reason would be seeing a drunk driver crash, then this would be a solid #2. I'm not one to go moralize other people's use of substances, but it's also weird for me to read your take on it. Those are very common and good reasons for people…

How far are you going to take it, though? Are you going to stop using knives because you read about a stabbing?

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Post by Gud »

tester89 wrote: post #242
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #238

I've lived in California, now Amsterdam. Both places where weed has been legal for a while, but because it's legal there's an incredible economic pressure to grow the most potent weed possible. I'm like a 2 joint a year kind of guy, and it's nearly impossible to find "ditch weed" that doesn't put me on the floor for 4 hours.

Couldn’t you just smoke less?

Yes, that is the normal advice. I smoke so called shorties when I come home from work, I hate being too high but I do enjoy the relaxation weed brings.

I've smoked CBD only strains recently and they do hit the spot as well.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

jakupovic wrote: post #207
growse wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oxygen's a pretty potent carcinogen, yet I really enjoy breathing. Makes me feel alive.

100% of people who were breathing 150 years ago died, so your example holds up.

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate.

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

jakupovic wrote: post #202
georgeplusplus wrote: post #195

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My main issue since legalization is I find the smell disgusting. It also imbues and latches itself onto to whatever is around you. Now legalization has people smoking it in my apartment complex or at restaurants and the smell just lingers around my house or on your clothes when your near it. And then Every weed smoker I brought this up to told me tough luck.

It is "tough luck" as you frame it since collective good takes precedence :). I do disagree about the smell lingering, the marijuana smell doesn't stay around for a long, overnight or so, while tobacco smoke does imbibe itself to clothes and requires a wash and I don't see people saying one cannot smoke cigarettes, especially in Germany or any EU countries. In any case nobody cares what you think, about MJ, sorry but…

To be fair, while cigs are stinkier and last longer, marijuana is WAY more potent. E.g. a joint will make an entire neighborhood smell like wee d for hours whereas a cig makes like a 20 ft radius smell like cigs for 20 mins and the smoker and any nearby clothing smells like it until its washed.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

hkwerf wrote: post #70
hkwerf wrote: post #46

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Essentially: Production and trade under very strict restriction in so-called cannabis clubs. Trade as a non-narcotic medication in pharmacies, restricted to prescriptions. Production at home, with very strict limits towards quantity of plants and size of harvest. Possession of limited amounts of cannabis and thus public consumption with restrictions regarding proximity to institutions for children.

It should be noted that a lot of things are still illegal and are being worked on. Two examples: You are not allowed to share cannabis. The amount of THC in your blood that would make it illegal to drive is 1 ng/mL blood serum. This is essentially nothing and can, anecdotally, be triggered by losing weight after consuming.

What’s the mL unit?

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Post by dividefuel »

hayst4ck wrote: post #199
jll29 wrote: post #103

I watched other people smoke cannabis, and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy. I decided to NEVER try this, and to this day I have no regrets; I enjoy being in full control of my senses (I also do not drink alcohol and do not smoke). The only thing hallucinating in my place is neural language models that I do research on. However, I do support the legal…

I've watched a fair number of weed smoker's lives (~10) and they fall into two distinct categories. One set smoke weed and then partake in creative, explorative, or otherwise effort filled pursuits. Generally I feel that weed has likely improved their lives. The other set smoke weed and consume... consume tv, consume video games, consume food, consume music. These people seem to fall into a slump that weed seems to p…

This is pretty accurate to my experience. Weed makes many relaxing activities more enjoyable. On nights when I had nothing planned and wanted a chill night at home, weed would make that more enjoyable. But then it became easy to justify smoking every night that I didn't have anything going... which is most nights. So, soon I was smoking basically every night.

That said, I feel like I drifted between the two categories you describe. Sometimes I'd chill on the couch and do nothing but consume. Others I'd feel inspired to do something productive, like work on a side project, clean the house, go for a walk, or practice guitar.

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #238

I've lived in California, now Amsterdam. Both places where weed has been legal for a while, but because it's legal there's an incredible economic pressure to grow the most potent weed possible. I'm like a 2 joint a year kind of guy, and it's nearly impossible to find "ditch weed" that doesn't put me on the floor for 4 hours.

The thing is… weed isn’t legal in The Netherlands: https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-reg.... It’s one massive grey area.

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Post by antfarm »

geraldhh wrote: post #169
antfarm wrote: post #119

About time. Weed and hash being illegal has put a large portion of my generation (German Gen Xer here) on the wrong side of the law and gave us an unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind.

> wrong side of the law and gave us an unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind. healthy skepticism seems in short supply thou

Depends on the color of your skin.

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #258
GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #238

I've lived in California, now Amsterdam. Both places where weed has been legal for a while, but because it's legal there's an incredible economic pressure to grow the most potent weed possible. I'm like a 2 joint a year kind of guy, and it's nearly impossible to find "ditch weed" that doesn't put me on the floor for 4 hours.

The thing is… weed isn’t legal in The Netherlands: https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-reg... . It’s one massive grey area.

It might not translate for US folks, but the concept of "Gedoogbeleid" (loosely tolerance) applies here. Personal consumption of weed is decriminalized. Coffeeshops have strict rules they have to follow or the police will shut down their stores, this varies by town and region.
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