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Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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> been cutting way back on my engagement. I have walked back through my post history and edited a bunch of them, using Yossarian's censoring rules - death to all adverbs, nouns, verbs, adjectives - or just replacing the posts with meme text or song lyrics to stupid songs. So you don’t see that you are being part of the problem?

The site is systemically bad now. Shitting up or deleting the content is part of the solution, to accelerate the timeline of typical users finding it worthless so that it can die and give rise to something better.

So if you don’t like a place in the real world, do you vandalize it or just not go there?

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Front page vote counts are now typically 1/10th what they were before the exodus, and bot content is visibly more prevalent. If you expected the website to die overnight, that was just an unrealistic definition of failure for a large website. Digg, the failure that founded Reddit, is still alive today. MySpace still exists. AOL is still selling dial-up internet. Failure at this scale is a slow slide to irrelevance, a…

> Front page vote counts are now typically 1/10th what they were Is that really a reliable metric for activity there? Genuinely curious. What if more content is being published and popular posts don't get as much voting because of the churn? > before the exodus Exodus to where, exactly? A few thousand users switching to some obscure alternative isn't much. Sure, people left Twitter, but Threads and Bluesky are way bi…

I left for HN. Not going back.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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Agreed. The manipulation became obvious with the capital fueled shareblue / "correct the record" campaign from Dems years ago and has only gotten worse since. The stated purpose of CTR was to defend against Trump, but it was of course also abused to help sabotage Sanders. A tool like this will always be abused to perpetually elevate capital interests over human interests. Whatever solution everybody jumps to, it need…

Is this "CTR" from the world of alternative facts, or a real thing?

I can’t speak to what the GP is talking about here, but Correct The Record was a SuperPAC whose purpose was to “…fight online harassment aimed at Clinton and her supporters by staying positive.”

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/correct...

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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post #188

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Is this "CTR" from the world of alternative facts, or a real thing?

I can’t speak to what the GP is talking about here, but Correct The Record was a SuperPAC whose purpose was to “…fight online harassment aimed at Clinton and her supporters by staying positive.” [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/correct...

Appreciate it. So it's a "nothingburger" to borrow parlance!

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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In my view, this action should not have been taken without first ensuring that people from countries where internet access is heavily restricted, such as Iran(where using a VPN is most common method to access the free internet and information is already limited), still have a means to access it.

I had a friend who discovered she had to undergo an STD.free-test when she needed to through reddit. and now reddit is not accessible anymore to people living where she used to live.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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> Front page vote counts are now typically 1/10th what they were Is that really a reliable metric for activity there? Genuinely curious. What if more content is being published and popular posts don't get as much voting because of the churn? > before the exodus Exodus to where, exactly? A few thousand users switching to some obscure alternative isn't much. Sure, people left Twitter, but Threads and Bluesky are way bi…

I left for HN. Not going back.

I read HN more than I did before, but reddit has vastly more long-tail content than HN or anywhere else. Reddit is Usenet. There is nowhere else I can consume content about very specific interests all in 1 place like reddit.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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I think reddit is actually thriving. Everyone I know spends time there nowadays.

I think Reddit used to be a niche site for hackers [1], hobbyists and enthusiasts. Now it's a mainstream site where regular people browse news and memes. Maybe Reddit alienated it former audience, but it doesn't mean it's dying - it just changed. [1] as in "hacker news"

The internet used to be a place for hobbyists, hackers, and enthusiasts. That's not true anymore, at least not exclusively. But that supports your point - when the lake turns to saltwater you dont survive by being a freshwater fish.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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The site is systemically bad now. Shitting up or deleting the content is part of the solution, to accelerate the timeline of typical users finding it worthless so that it can die and give rise to something better.

So if you don’t like a place in the real world, do you vandalize it or just not go there?

Are you intentionally ignoring the fact that from day one a user had the right to edit by adding to or subtracting any part of their content or to delete the entire comment? How is this vandalization? This is user control, the same level of control granted on a site that was built for users to post on and discuss any subject - free speech was a keystone principle until some bad actors couldn't stop posting trash and ended up rightly banned.

Millions, maybe billions of comments are digital dust at this point. Like thoughts lost just before they made it past the tip of your tongue. This is normal and expected behavior. Conversations get lost in the fog.

Reddit isn't a Banksy. Today, it's more like the monkey area of the zoo in spots with each monkey's hand ready to sling the shit. When you consider the huge number of bots on the site it is likely worse than that.

Originally /u/spez and /u/n0thing set a standard where a poster who dropped a reply containing information that didn't fit the established narrative and tried framing it as an accurate answer was asked to post the references that supported their conclusion. It was "tits or get the fuck out" days. That by itself promoted healthy discussions and worked to disseminate accurate information on important topics. It helped establish a cadre of users who are outstanding in their fields and who enjoy sharing their expertise with others.

In time, especially after Digg imploded themselves, the expansion of subreddits made it untenable for proper moderation so a lot of boogers were allowed out of the nostrils and while the quality of discussions in general on the site was still good, many subreddits were established where people could say anything with no one calling them out. It sideloaded all the horseshit that used to hit the front (and only) page of reddit to the subs - stuff like goatse, nsfw content, etc. In the earliest incarnation reddit's front page was a minefield of stuff you really needed to avoid if you wanted to surf online and still keep your job. Early users learned fast to read the comments before opening the post.

I'm having a hard time understanding how a feature - user control of content they post - is mislabeled in your reply as vandalism when the user elects to employ that feature in managing their content.

Re: Tell HN: Reddit now blocks VPN access via browser, 'old' subdomain included

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The site is systemically bad now. Shitting up or deleting the content is part of the solution, to accelerate the timeline of typical users finding it worthless so that it can die and give rise to something better.

So if you don’t like a place in the real world, do you vandalize it or just not go there?

It's silly to act like every online context has a real world analogue. But no, I don't vandalize it. Whatever you consider the real world equivalent of deleting my comments after the place has enshittified itself, that's what I do.
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