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Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Epic led with an ad campaign while Apple stayed silent. Then did it again by publishing their correspondence with Apple. Tell me more.

Yes, Epic "led". So what? Of course the one in the favorable position would like to minimize talk about anything that would disrupt the position.

You 1 minute ago:

> All sides are marketing

You 10 seconds ago:

Nah, only one side is marketing.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Interesting. I thought housing in the EU has been a challenge for generations with home ownership a difficult to impossible goal for most people, with this being the case across the region. In the US the housing affordability issue is in a few highly desirable urban areas, but not being generally case across the country. I think the bread in the US, sans the supermarket stuff, is generally exceptional with bakeries t…

" But the reality of America is much more complex than that, and that’s accelerated since the 1950’s, and was completely broken down in the 1990’s. " You complain a lack of seing the complexity of American food but instead you have a simple view of the European cultures. Have you been ever in any European country and when? I have the feeling you havent been.

fnordpiglet posted virtually nothing about Europe. Where are you drawing your opinion of his/her view of European cultures from?

This whole thread is just bizarre.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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"for one" or "for once"?

I think they meant once. Besides digital lollipops what else is going so great in EU? jobs? economic growth? housing? immigration?

As someone who recently bought a house in the EU, IMO the best place to make money is the US. But, the best place to spend it is the EU. Much like doing the location/CoL arbitrage in the US, it's even better if you can get higher end US salaries and do a quality of life arbitrage to the EU.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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They seem to maximizing the amount of face lost though. If you act like a bully, and then recede at the slightest resistance, you just come off looking like a fool.

This will all blow over in a week. But once the control is lost, it’s gone forever.

Developer grievances about Apple have been simmering for years, and even longtime Apple fans aren't happy about what's been going on lately. This is not a smart path to follow.

They need enthusiastic small developers to help build the Vision Pro ecosystem, and so far it doesn't seem to be going that well.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Amazing how fast this decision was reversed. It's truly awesome to see regulators standing up to walled gardens. This will greatly benefit both developers and consumers.

It's unlikely that "regulators" had anything to do with it, given the quick resolution. I'd be more inclined to think that Epic went back to Apple hat-in-hand and begged to be let back in, probably promising to muzzle Sweeney.

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Are you under the impression that lootboxes aren't allowed on the official App Store? Because they absolutely are, I would wager that a significant chunk of Apples store revenue comes from games with faux-gambling mechanics. Genshin Impact alone has made billions of dollars on mobile through gacha monetization and Apple has no objections to that strategy as long as they get their cut.

>> Are you under the impression that lootboxes aren't allowed on the official App Store?

No good guys was fairly unambiguous I thought.

Apple already had their date with the FTC over dark patterns... 2014 and 36 million later the message was sent.

IN 22 when Epic gets the same slap on the wrist, its for 250million in excess CC charges and 250 million for COPPA violations.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2022/12/...

https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/19/23516925/epic-games-ft...

Oh wait, half a billion dollars isn't a slap on the wrist is it?

Apple at least has the decency to tell you up front and clearly how they are going to stick it to you. Epic stabs you in the back while picking your pocket and then locks you out, the FTC fines reflect how egregious their actions were.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Apple's statement: “Following conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules, including our DMA policies. As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.” If you think the EU got their shit together in 2 days, you're day dreaming. Phil Schiller invited Epic to make assurances that they'd follow the terms of the agreemen…

The EU reacted immediately and asked Apple for clarification. That means, they reminded Apple that the law is the law, which they seemed to have forgotten. You're the one dreaming if you think Apple got their shot together by themselves.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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I’m so tired of this Apple tax, I think nobody would be this annoyed if Apple were saying 10% or something around that. 30% is more than most companies pay in tax on profits and this is a tax on revenue. I don’t think abusing your market position like some kind of protection racket should be allowed and if you don’t like it we’ll delete your App is quite frankly just as bad as the mafia smashing in shop windows. I do…

30% isn't some outlier share though? It also has been that way since the beginning, so it's not like they achieved their market position and then jacked up the prices; it's been this way the whole time - and, in fact, they've added programs where smaller businesses only pay a 15% commission..

Not an outlier and is pretty standard. When it was originally announced it was one of the best deals out there for developers writing software for phones. The WWDC audience cheered at getting 70%.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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post #251

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Yes, Epic "led". So what? Of course the one in the favorable position would like to minimize talk about anything that would disrupt the position.

You 1 minute ago: > All sides are marketing You 10 seconds ago: Nah, only one side is marketing.

Marketing isn’t limited to ads. Obviously.
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