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Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by _visgean »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #23

This reads like a 10th graders report, just repeating arguments found on the internet. The criticism of forcing apple to abandon a superior connector for phones to standardize charger cords, while every other building you go into in Europe has a different outlet that is incompatible with the charger you want to plug in is perfectly reasonable. The idea that there is some great benefit to making sure there is only one…

If lightning cable was really superior why did apple not use it in ipads / macbooks?

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by guappa »

lapcat wrote: post #153
ragebol wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cookie warnings are a result of companies not taking a pretty obvious hint: don't do tracking.

The European Commission's own announcement of the fine against Apple has a cookie banner: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_... "This site uses cookies to offer you a better browsing experience." Which of course is total crap. There's no better experience, only a worse experience with the banner.

Finding good js developers can be a challenge.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by bojan »

Aerroon wrote: post #241
Beretta_Vexee wrote: post #74

A common mistake is to think that the EU is limited to a few large economies (Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Holland), but this is not the case. Ensuring that a Croatian SME can win contracts with the French or Germans is one of the EU's priority objectives. This is how the EU has lifted millions of people out of poverty. This is a very tangible reality. It worked with East Germany, Spain, Poland, the Baltic States a…

When Bulgarian truckers started outcompeting French truckers the EU came up with new rules to shut that down. Requiring that the truck has to go back to the country the company is from every 2 months is ridiculous. Not the driver, the vehicle.

Why would it be ridiculous, if a truck has a Bulgarian license plate it's a reasonable expectation that it's based in Bulgaria.

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Post by indymike »

MarcusE1W wrote: post #129
toenail wrote: post #42

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> The first and most clearly top of mind recently is the US defense umbrella Defense has to be believable, a 50/50 bet that treaties will be honored in the future isn't. All that debt fueled spending doesn't mean a lot.

As a European I always have mixed feelings when this comes up. First things first, the European NATO members signed a contract to use 2% of GDP for defense and some are not doing that. Not right, they have to honor their agreements. But then why is the US spending so much more than the 2% ? I feel that by and large that Europe and mostly the EU tries to have international influence via commerce. (Trade agreement/or n…

> All of that also with the view that probably most people are shocked that it is actually possible to have an actual war in Europe again.

Compound interest is powerful, and works both ways. Under-spending on defense for a decade or too leaves large gaps in defense capability. The US overspends, but doesn't always spend on the right things. A good example not having enough artillery ammunition.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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carlosjobim wrote: post #216
kerkeslager wrote: post #159

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There are two systems at play when you see a cookie warning: 1. Businesses trying to violate your privacy. 2. A government trying to protect you from said businesses. Either of these entities could avoid the cookie warning, but there are very different reasons why they do not.

If you use government websites within EU countries, most of them have cookie warnings. And a large part of them also use dark patterns to "forget" that you selected "only necessary" cookies each time you visit.

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Post by overstay8930 »

yakireev wrote: post #226
overstay8930 wrote: post #66

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Funny that you chose Amsterdam to give an example: this is one of the places in Europe where there actually are IT startups - some "home-grown", some moved from elsewhere. "Nobody" is plainly not true.

I specifically chose Amsterdam for that reason actually, it is probably the best place in Europe to start and run a business and it still sucks compared to the US.

Americans can actually move to the Netherlands easily because of special arrangements for starting businesses, but you won’t be surprised to find out most aren’t taking them up on that offer.

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Post by Fischgericht »

paulsutter wrote: post #48
mjburgess wrote: post #24

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It does seem they've mistaken the general sentiment towards government regulation in europe, which is typically, "more, better". Since we have so many consumer protections, much of how we end up engaging with the law around business practices is to our benefit . We're always aware we can raise bad business practices with an ombudsman (etc.). So our lived experience of government regulation is, in large part, positive…

Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

Yes, the regulation had loop-holes and the EU underestimated the creativity of companies to try to use those loop-holes. The most annoying thing were the dark patterns used - default being "allow all cookies", and then making sure that rejecting cookies took you spending 10 minutes in sub-menus. That loop-hole has now been closed.

The correct way to get rid of cookie banners is businesses using cookies in a responsible fashion, and sooner or later this is going to happen.

Also, your framing misses one important point: If I have the choice between mildly frustrating cookie banners that raise awareness for the situation and simply having all your data sent to 500 advertising "partners" the moment you enter a website, like it is in the US, I choose the mildly frustrating cookie banners.

Freedom does come at a cost.

Do not blame regulators for evil forces trying to circumvent those regulations.

It's what the article you are commenting on is all about. Go (re-)read it.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by NoGravitas »

paulsutter wrote: post #48
mjburgess wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does seem they've mistaken the general sentiment towards government regulation in europe, which is typically, "more, better". Since we have so many consumer protections, much of how we end up engaging with the law around business practices is to our benefit . We're always aware we can raise bad business practices with an ombudsman (etc.). So our lived experience of government regulation is, in large part, positive…

Yes each time we see these cookie warnings, we admire a system that does so much to our benefit

Cookie banners are largely a form of malicious compliance.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

sealeck wrote: post #236

There's also another option where Apple is just going to wait/lobby the US government to apply pressure on the EU in the hope that this is effective (as it has been historically). In in the event of another Trump presidency (let us hope this doesn't happen) this is very likely to happen and Biden has made some moves in this direction. The fact that Europe is 100% reliant on the US to stop the Russians conquering Ukra…

Neither of those "examples" support the idea that the EU will "back off", especially since pummeling Big Tech is pretty much the only thing these days that has widespread bipartisan support.

Your first link is just about congresspeople wanting the laws to be applied fairly. Of course, though, it is (the article also mentions that ByteDance is included), it's just that most big tech companies are from the US. The second article is just about Ted Cruz screeching "collusion!!" because some people in US government are meeting with their counterparts in the EU. That troll's gonna troll, it's a day ending in y.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by myspy »

lapcat wrote: post #153
ragebol wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cookie warnings are a result of companies not taking a pretty obvious hint: don't do tracking.

The European Commission's own announcement of the fine against Apple has a cookie banner: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_... "This site uses cookies to offer you a better browsing experience." Which of course is total crap. There's no better experience, only a worse experience with the banner.

Because they should clarify for every web dev that technical relevant cookies that do not track the user with third parties are not requiring a banner.
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