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Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Hey! I wanted to ask you something. So, I am traditionally somebody who self hosts a lot of stuff. I am not allergic to paying a fee to have something hosted by someone else - but one of my conditions to doing this is that there is an easy way to migrate away from the cloud offering should I choose to in the future. To give an example, I use Tailscale HEAVILY right across all my self hosted stuff. It is absolutely ce…

> How does one get their data out of the cloud ente.io - and into a self hosted instance of the server? Is there any data loss during this process?

Just to jump in cause I was curious myself. I think your question is answered here:

"Command Line Utility for exporting data from Ente"

https://github.com/ente-io/ente/tree/main/cli

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Do you have an import from smugmug? I have been a smugmug user for about 19 years and finally thinking of moving on...

Co-Founder, CEO & Chief Geek from SmugMug here. Love to know why you're thinking of moving on. :)

I'm on flickr and the semi-regular emails over the past few years telling me that I have private photos which will get deleted soon, would be my reason.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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> I don't really get the business model. An open source stack makes sense for products targeted towards programmers. > Most people that back up their pics in ~the cloud~ won't have the technical skills to do self-host Which is why they are offering a managed service as well. Even people with the technical skills are not always inclined to selfhost. > With Dropbox I guess you could accomplish the same, but you'd need…

You're getting butthurt about stuff that's not relevant. The point is the encryption is: 1 - trivial to layer yourself 2 - not a viable business model You just need to look at Signal. It's at the same price ($0) as its competition (not 4x). And messages you can't really encryption yourself. It's still struggling to get a market foothold. Yeah, it'd be great to have Google/Dropbox/etc with privacy. Sure. Nothing wrong…

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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I don't understand how this can possibly work within the constraints of iOS, and I've done some digging in the code. Anyone else find where they are doing anything iOS specific to enable background uploads when you don't ever open the app? Apple go to great lengths to make sure the user has to use the app before it allows "budget" for background processes to execute within. My guess is that as part of the Ente team,…

> Anyone else find where they are doing anything iOS specific to enable background uploads when you don't ever open the app? Search for "SyncService.instance.sync" in the code, that's what gets triggered. The trigger is us sending periodic silent pushes to wake up the app. > My guess is that as part of the Ente team, you open the app semi regularly, which is enough for the device to give some budget for your cloud sy…

Ah of course, silent pushes. I thought those also end up getting ignored after some time. Interesting to know they don't. Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Hi, I'm really intrigued by Ente and would happily pay for a subscription. I love to pay for things I can self-host, but don't have to self-host unless it comes to it. Especially when there's E2EE. However, your reply gives me pause. The website says the apps are open-source, the other comment says the server is now open-source. Does that mean there's some pluggable black-box magic that the subscription enables? To a…

Hey, the server was open sourced just yesterday. We are yet to update our landing page copies, and we definitely weren't ready to be in HN today (but are glad to be here!) :) So there is no black-box magic that the subscription enables. Our live, breathing production setup is available in a monorepo here[1]. > is this not even possible This is very much possible. I've added an updated comment here[2], thanks! [1]: ht…

This is extremely exciting. Shout to y'all!

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Co-Founder, CEO & Chief Geek from SmugMug here. Love to know why you're thinking of moving on. :)

I'm on flickr and the semi-regular emails over the past few years telling me that I have private photos which will get deleted soon, would be my reason.

That's why you'd leave SmugMug?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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I'm on flickr and the semi-regular emails over the past few years telling me that I have private photos which will get deleted soon, would be my reason.

That's why you'd leave SmugMug?

"CEO & Chief Geek at Flickr"

Flickr does it, why wouldn't SmugMug?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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I just tried the free trial (1GB, 1 year, nice and thanks!) and this is pretty impressive software. I like the mobile app: it's snappy, and Just Works. Obviously, I couldn't fully test it because I have many gigabytes of photos on my phone (which is a problem I'm trying to fix!), at least not without going out of the free trial range. Also, uploading all that stuff takes time, and I'm not sure I want to share all that personal stuff with you fine folks, even though you seem to have your house in order.

Which brings us to self-hosting, of course: really nice that the server is open source! I found ente first through f-droid when the app landed there but put it aside because the server was closed-source then. But wow, really nice design! I like the docker-compose just shoves a minio in there, really neat and probably how I would build something like that myself if i would start from scratch.

Compared to photoprism and immich, for sure server-side machine-learning is missing, but then that's obviously a tradeoff you must live with if you want E2EE.

As I mentioned in the goodbye note, I won't be using this short term because I do need to have something on my desktop I sync photos with that's not a bulging pile of Chrome (AKA "electron"). I really appreciate you spent all that energy writing those apps, but I really need something more lightweight on the desktop.

Right now I'm syncing photos with git-annex, and I wonder if ente could be a "special remote" there, even, but for now this is not really compatible with my workflow.

But congrats on this tool, it looks really nice and I'm likely going to recommend this to friends and family as a hosted solution.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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I just tried the free trial (1GB, 1 year, nice and thanks!) and this is pretty impressive software. I like the mobile app: it's snappy, and Just Works. Obviously, I couldn't fully test it because I have many gigabytes of photos on my phone (which is a problem I'm trying to fix!), at least not without going out of the free trial range. Also, uploading all that stuff takes time, and I'm not sure I want to share all tha…

Thank you, you're very kind! :)
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