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Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by hiAndrewQuinn »

siddbudd wrote: post #41

For all you people who have used Anki or other SRS for many years: how do you get over the problem of being bored by it? Or does that not happen to you? Though I have not used Anki, I used a similar SRS for learning Chinese - the flashcards built in Pleco, but no matter how often I try to use it, I never last longer than 5-10 days, I just get bored by it. Also, no matter how I try to adjust the algo, I have the feeli…

User of Supermemo, then Mnemosyne, then Anki for about 11 years. I use them for all kinds of stuff, language learning (Finnish) being one of them over the last few years.

If I'm bored by it one day, I just don't do it that day. Or week, like this one, where I was too entrancee by playing FTL.

Then I let myself get back into it. It comes and goes in waves. That's fine. The only person keeping score is yourself.

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Post by _Algernon_ »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #170
tyrust wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the opposite of what the commenter is suggesting.

One of the biggest roadblocks to using anki or cards in general is coming up with good cards. Automating that part lets you use anki a lot more, which is a win. If you want to connect with the question you can still manually transcribe the card.

The biggest failure mode is adding to many notes at once, which leads to non obvious increased future workload. Automating card creation sounds like would worsen this issue unless extreme care is taken.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by Jtsummers »

Swalden123 wrote: post #237
aoanla wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I've had the same thing every time I have tried Anki - it's fine for a while, but once you get enough cards added, or just have been memorising a deck for long enough, even missing one session generates a huge unsurmountable backlog. It's bad and consistent enough for me that I just stopped trying to use Anki at all.

Is there no way to skip a day? And simply pause?

You can suspend cards and decks, but also you can skip days.

It'll create a backlog of cards to review, but that's surmountable. The number can become intimidating (I think my worst was around 2k cards), but there are a few ways to clear it. You can "just" get back into the daily habit, it'll take (by the default numbers, if one deck) # cards/100 days to clear out, more or less (some cards may come up for review again in that period so the actual number might be a bit higher). You can also up the daily review limit to clear it faster (I did this when I hit 2k, 200/day was about my personal time limit to spend on it so it took just over 10 days to clear).

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by sivers »

akxixn123 wrote: post #126
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Is he on the autism spectrum?

Not at all, and not particularly smart. Just a normal fun-loving kid, and this is something we do just 2-5 minutes a day.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by sivers »

arboles wrote: post #245
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Interesting, because the creator of Supermemo wrote that Spaced Repetition doesn't work on children because their brain re-arranges and repurposes structures far too much, making children's forgetting curve far too unpredictable, or at least different from adults. https://supermemo.guru/wiki/SuperMemo_does_not_work_for_kids Spaced repetition flaschard software is all about scheduling the flashcards around predictions…

It's not perfect, but it's better than not doing it. He enjoys it.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by sivers »

99catmaster wrote: post #121
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

I’m curious, how did you manage to get a child into Anki and make them self sufficient on it? Kudos to you

We do it together, just 2-5 minutes a day. When I'm away he does it on his own maybe 50/50.

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by AlexErrant »

jan_Inkepa wrote: post #3

Every few years I use Anki heavily for language stuff (German, more recently Latin and Classical Chinese), up to 90 minutes a day, but I can never keep the workload under control, or my habits change, and give it up. I still benefit from a year of training, but it seems the long-tail of spaced repetition doesn't work for me at all. But so long as I get to the point where I can read or watch TV, the considerable effor…

> I wonder what the ecosystem would look like if things were otherwise.

Shameless plug - I'm building https://github.com/AlexErrant/Pentive which is basically GitHub/Reddit for flashcards. Very much pre-product and a WIP, though the offline client proof of concept is done.

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Post by sivers »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #128
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Do you have a similar habit? How does one get started making Anki a habit? I've used Anki for studying before exams, but I haven't been able to integrate it into my life.

If you care enough, you'll do it. Every day I brush my teeth, write in my diary, do my Anki, check email, eat something, etc. It's only a few minutes a day.

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

> when Judaism began & who started it

A bit off topic, but this is a very tricky question to answer. The traditional answer is Moses, ca. 1200 BC. The real answer would take many PhD theses to arrive at. It's really a process that took place between the 10th and 5th centuries BC (and arguably continued even much later than that).

Re: Anki – Powerful, intelligent flash cards

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Post by sivers »

FemmeAndroid wrote: post #136
sivers wrote: post #18

My boy is 11 now. We've used Anki with him every day since he was about 5. Examples of things he's memorized, for fun: * every country, recognized by unlabeled shape on the map * spelling * many body parts, names of bones and organs, from illustration * chemical elements, by symbol (Na, Fe, Zn, etc) * unix filesystem commands * numeracy references (km from here to Japan, earth to sun, meters from home to school) * re…

Are these separate decks or a single deck for your son? Do things come out of the deck(s)? What triggers that?

His decks:

* computer

* culture

* English

* math

* music

* nature

* where

I don't think we've ever pulled anything out of the deck. There are some cards that it says, when we mark [easy], that it will ask him again in 6 years. We joke about how at the age of 17 it will be asking him how to spell "sing", or whatever.

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