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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by Dalewyn »

tentacleuno wrote: post #188
Dalewyn wrote: post #23

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I am quite sure the people who use Nitter or otherwise detest Mysterious Twitter X are a vocal minority of people.

I use Twitter, and I detest it. It's mostly spam. This actually came up in a conversation yesterday, funnily enough: I'm mostly using Twitter because I'm curious as to how much worse it's going to get. So far, I've seen them allow NSFW paid-for advertisements, doxxing of well-known figures, daily crypto mention farming spam (with highly suspicious, easily-detectable patterns, spread across ~10 accounts per day), obvi…

None of what you said contests what I said.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by muppetman »

nunez wrote: post #207
muppetman wrote: post #80

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Exactly. Even the reddit blackouts etc did nothing really - sure a few people left in a huff and all that jazz, but Reddit is still trucking along happily. The only time I've seen the "eff it, we're leaving!" thing actually work was with Digg v4.

Nah, the blackouts definitely hurt Reddit. Deleted posts are the norm now. This was not the case before the API changes.

Fair point, I have myself noticed a lot more deleted posts. I doubt their bottom line has hurt much though.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by what »

neilv wrote: post #146
muppetman wrote: post #80

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Exactly. Even the reddit blackouts etc did nothing really - sure a few people left in a huff and all that jazz, but Reddit is still trucking along happily. The only time I've seen the "eff it, we're leaving!" thing actually work was with Digg v4.

Although, I'm surprised how often I'm seeing the key comments I was searching for deleted. I haven't been keeping stats, but maybe around half the time. Some Reddit metrics might've hardly noticed the blips, but if they had metrics for early-Reddit qualities, such as for smart (or clever) comments, helpful information, humor, or goodwill... I suspect those would be bad. Where they're not bad might be non-frontpage su…

> metrics for early-Reddit qualities

Those had already tanked before any API changes.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by lukan »

nomilk wrote: post #178
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #154

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We're all sharing the same links, articles, jokes, memes, ideas, cat pictures. What differentiates a place is its sense of community, not its content. It's easy to forget that because Twitter long ago stopped being a community.

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"many were banned for saying things that were unpopular but true"

Can you cite one confirmed example?

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by londons_explore »

MallocVoidstar wrote: post #6
defrost wrote: post #5

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39154536 I use a redirection extension to prepend "https://farside.link/_/" to certain domains. For example: https://twitter.com/nasa …becomes: https://farside.link/_/twitter.com/nasa The underscore adds an interstitial redirection page, so you can press Back to try another instance. The above service redirects to Nitter which still appears to be working.

Nitter currently relies on the mass generation of guest accounts, a weird anonymous form of account that was only supported by old versions of the Twitter app. Creation of them was totally disabled today, so every nitter instance will be dead in under 30 days (when they expire). Scrapers apparently also relied on this, as every public nitter instance was being hammered by scrapers earlier. Instances will probably shu…

I'm gonna guess that these guest accounts might be the reason 'usage is at an all time high' according to musk, but seems to be falling according to everyone else.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by maxbond »

monero-xmr wrote: post #215
viraptor wrote: post #194

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Knowing what many people believe is itself useful, especially if you annotate it with "there are no signs that this is actually going to happen". > obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse. Yet, you can't show me an article that says this. Is this left wing media obsession, or is this what you believe about NYT? Twitter was a hot topic and they reported on…

Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate. When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.

> When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.

The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down.

Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by walterbell »

TylerE wrote: post #246
walterbell wrote: post #119

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For those who need timely access to information that is only available on Twitter, the account is unavoidable. The benefit of extra steps is a client under user control, e.g. filtering, RSS, better threading and more.

If timely is the key criterion isn’t sticking a caching layer in the middle the opposite of helping?

Transparent, deterministic, user-controlled caching and filtering > black-box Twitter display algos that change unpredictably.

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Post by lobocinza »

tga_d wrote: post #241
nomilk wrote: post #178

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>The Elon era seems to emphasise truth over sensitivities I've never heard anyone claim that misinformation went down with the acquisition--Musk infamously gutted that department, and I've seen plenty of claims at least from journalists and the EU that the problem is now worse. Anecdotally, I left Twitter not for ideological reasons, but because my timeline become filled with algorithmic noise from what were clearly…

Community notes are great and an important tool to fact check disinformation from politicians and VIPs to which traditional fact checkers often turn a blind eye. I say this from Brazil so your YMMV. While I'm not familiar with the Mr. Beast debacle on Twitter he and his content are extremely popular so it's natural for his content to be recommended. What wasn't "natural" was Twitter recommendations prior. Though there are many other reasons for not using Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, etc.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

jameshart wrote: post #223
jjackson5324 wrote: post #164

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> because the subject matter experts whose real-time thoughts we used to follow have left the platform Do mind naming 10 subject matter experts who've permanently left twitter? I'm really curious as to which communities used to be vibrant on Twitter and then died after the X switch over. Yeah, as you stated, my personal experience is that all the communities I follow continue to be active.

Not going to indulge in an 'oh, you like Twitter? Name ten of their albums' kind of question. My friends left. I left.

The entire discussion is based on subject matter experts. I asked you to name a few and you didn't name a single one.

> My friends left. I left.

Ok? That has no relevance to our discussion.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

travisporter wrote: post #203
jjackson5324 wrote: post #164

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> because the subject matter experts whose real-time thoughts we used to follow have left the platform Do mind naming 10 subject matter experts who've permanently left twitter? I'm really curious as to which communities used to be vibrant on Twitter and then died after the X switch over. Yeah, as you stated, my personal experience is that all the communities I follow continue to be active.

Andrej Karpathy - I guess. The tweets i see when i click on it are out of chronological order, maybe there's something new i don't see

Nah Andrej is still active on [Twitter](https://i.imgur.com/KEa6dx4.png)

I'm guessing he's less active now because he's back at OpenAI and not on sabbatical anymore.

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