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Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#251

Post by 0xDEAFBEAD » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:15 AM UTC

semitones wrote: post #249

kjkjadksj wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "it's just twitter but you can write and use custom clients and feed algorithms" is a compelling proposition For the average twitter user this is probably the exact opposite of a compelling position. Tech people want more control and less abstraction. Everyone else is happy with their walled gardens and ten layers of separation from the machine code. Its why things are the way they are and not some technopunk utopi…

Open source clients and algorithms could serve as a foundation for more end-user friendly abstractions and UIs, that let average users very plainly express (or not express) what they want to see, and who they want to be seen by. Imagine a sort of plug in ecosystem with sane defaults

Could this worsen polarization by facilitating extremist fever swamps?

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#252

Post by jakebsky » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:15 AM UTC

franze wrote: post #205

Tried to sign up for bs. With valid invitation code. Got an error message after the final stage. Again and again and again. Social Media Companies that can't get their sign-up funnel in order have already failed.

Sent you an email, in case you're willing to give some info we can use to investigate this. We're always willing to look into any issues like this. Thanks!

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by metadat » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:16 AM UTC

rileyphone wrote: post #247

chatmasta wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that your whole community was insular enough to move to an invite-only app is exactly what worries me about Bluesky. It's just a bunch of cliques. Is that sustainable? We'll see. I do like the technical vision, a lot. But I haven't been able to try it out because any time I felt the desire to look, nobody could actually link me to a post or a feed. So I never achieved the required activation energy to even l…

Here's a few invite codes for anyone to use (maybe reply if you successfully use one) bsky-social-exnc4-5h2qb bsky-social-cocv2-coy6u bsky-social-txqzx-nqhw3 bsky-social-h6snn-255ig

They're all used up. Womp womp.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#254

Post by 0xDEAFBEAD » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:19 AM UTC

rconti wrote: post #127

mminer237 wrote: post #48

It still doesn't seem to have a public feed though, so you can only view individual posts. I will say as someone has an invite: you're not missing out on anything. It definitely has far less activity than either Twitter or Threads, but somehow it also just has worse content. You would think they were invite-only to keep the quality high, but everything is either furry porn or hate-filled rage bait, neither of which I…

I get that this rage bait works on some percent of the population. 20%? 50%? 75%? What that leaves unanswered is, why aren't these platforms smart enough to adapt to what actual individuals react to? Sure, they picked the most successful single formula, but you'd think they'd want to increase the platform's engagement at the margins rather than just milking one approach for all it's worth.

My vague impression was that Threads clamped down on the rage bait, and as a result it did not get adopted. Is that correct?

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by ziml77 » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:19 AM UTC

jakebsky wrote: post #234

lairv wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still need to get an invite / a waitlist to register or am I missing something ? I don't know how you can expect people to make the move when they're not even able to sign in

There is still a waitlist but we're working hard to open things up ASAP. Some people will never believe it, but the waitlist was never intended as a growth hack. It was purely an attempt to keep the network healthy and the servers from catching on fire as we iterated on the app itself. For devs that want to experiment, we've had a special waitlist for a while: https://atproto.com/blog/call-for-developers

What's wild is that the same people who call it a growth hack also acknowledge that the waitlist isn't limiting growth and overall interest.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#256

Post by Sgt_Apone » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:25 AM UTC

campfireshuffle wrote: post #192

mattl wrote: post #5

If anyone from Twitter I know is reading this and wants an invite code ask me via Mastodon DM or email.

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Used bsky-social-pnhfr-cejvd (4th down). Thanks!

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#257

Post by brycewray » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:26 AM UTC

rileyphone wrote: post #247

chatmasta wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that your whole community was insular enough to move to an invite-only app is exactly what worries me about Bluesky. It's just a bunch of cliques. Is that sustainable? We'll see. I do like the technical vision, a lot. But I haven't been able to try it out because any time I felt the desire to look, nobody could actually link me to a post or a feed. So I never achieved the required activation energy to even l…

Here's a few invite codes for anyone to use (maybe reply if you successfully use one) bsky-social-exnc4-5h2qb bsky-social-cocv2-coy6u bsky-social-txqzx-nqhw3 bsky-social-h6snn-255ig

And a few more here...

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Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:27 AM UTC

Seeing lots of comparisons to Mastodon, Threads, and XTwitter in this thread.

I remember in the days of instant messaging, I had a single client (Adium for Mac OS X) which could talk to AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, Google Chat, etc. It gave me a unified buddy list, and a unified interface for messaging any of my friends, regardless of the underlying instant messaging provider.

Is anyone working on a similar omniclient for Mastodon/Threads/Bluesky/XTwitter?

If we get to the point where most users are using omniclients of this kind, that helps reduce network effects and lock-in. Seems like the Mastodon/Threads/Bluesky teams would have a strong incentive to collaborate on such a client, in order to reduce XTwitter network effects, essentially joining forces in their own unified network. (I imagine that XTwitter will block API access, at least in the short term.)

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by zappb » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:32 AM UTC

haswell wrote: post #84

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so dumb. Someone please explain how a social network is supposed to succeed when it's invite-only? Hype alone won't carry it. IMO, being invite-only is THE reason Google+ failed. There were so many memes about people getting excited for an invite, getting on, and then finding only a couple people they knew were on it, if any at all. For a social network to work, it needs to be a network . Limiting on-boarding el…

> Someone please explain how a social network is supposed to succeed when it's invite-only? Hype alone won't carry it. It may be that the industry has evolved to a degree that this is no longer viable (I also don’t know if I believe this…), but invite-only or otherwise limited launches formed the backbone of the current web. Facebook was only available if you had a school address. Gmail was only available via invite.…

Gmail interoperated with other email providers, so invites worked. Facebook limited signups based on email domain names, not invite codes, so everyone in those email domains could sign up at the same time. Google+, like Bluesky, started with invite codes without a way for communities to join organically.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by brycewray » Sat, Dec 23, 2023, 2:32 AM UTC

Still hoping for an official “Tweetdeck-ish” interface choice on the desktop. In the absence thereof, deck.blue isn’t too bad while skyfeed.app, although it seems more technically robust, isn’t exactly eye candy. I know there are others I haven’t yet tried; just would love to see Bluesky itself have something like Mastodon’s “Advanced Web Interface” option.