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Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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All these intellectual property lawsuits look like an economic loss overall. The laws don’t work as intended if they aimed to encourage innovation

Sure but on the other hand as someone with a pretty recent Apple Watch on my wrist I am very happy whenever Apple suffers a loss and loses money.

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> the price will shoot up drastically as soon as the market is aware of someone Will that still happen if you put in a single order to buy 51% of all the shares at a price a little above the current market value ? That trade will be complete before the market "sees" you are trying to buy a ton.

That’s kind of what I had in mind, I don’t really know if it’s feasible or not but if I had billions of dollars deposited in my Robinhood account just made the order for that many shares, would it not go through?

There are a finite number of shares - you can only buy what is available for sale. When you log into Robinhood and put in an order as a consumer you are doing it on a small enough scale that you don't see it but every "buy" request gets matched up with someone elses' "sell" request.

When we are talking about a massive % of the total share count there simply isn't that many "sell" requests out there for you to take advantage of.

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"Masimo detailed how Apple poached its top executives and more than a dozen other employees before later releasing a watch with pulse oximeter capabilities — which measures the percentage of oxygen that red blood cells carry from the lungs to the body — that were patented by Masimo" "Joe Kiani, the chief executive of Masimo, said in an interview that Apple had not engaged in licensing negotiations. Instead, he said t…

It’s so wild that a patent owner is allowed to refuse to sell a license to use the patented technology.

Mandatory licensing would be wild. If LG invent something that makes TVs better should they have to licence it to Samsung? Or should they just be able to make better TVs and use their invention for market differentiation?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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the same way that Apple's "rounded corners for smartphones" was a patent.

A design patent, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent , is different from a patent granted for an invention.

Seems similar to me. Lots of rounded rect products existed before iPhone. Like say, cassette tapes, vhs tapes, 8track tapes, bars of soap, cans of spam, license plates, sardine cans, etc...

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a plurality of emitters configured to emit light, each of the emitters comprising at least two light emitting diodes (LEDs); four photodiodes arranged within the user-worn device and configured to receive light after at least a portion of the light has been attenuated by tissue of the user; a protrusion comprising a convex surface including separate openings extending through the protrusion and lined with opaque mate…

the same way that Apple's "rounded corners for smartphones" was a patent.

That was a design patent[1], which are different from normal patents. A design patent is a form of legal protection granted to the ornamental design of an article of manufacture. Design patents are a type of industrial design right.

Whether you think it is a valid design patent or not is a different question. There is no doubt that the outline of the iPhone was iconic, and Apple was trying to protect that, and Samsung was trying to ape it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_patent

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Patents in question: https://patents.google.com/patent/US10912502B2/en https://patents.google.com/patent/US10945648B2/en They look identical to me btw? both files on 2020-02 and have title of "User-worn device for noninvasively measuring a physiological parameter of a user". From summary: > light source comprises LEDs and super-luminescent LEDs. The light source emits light at at least wavelengths of about 1610 nm, a…

These are both Masimo patents, right. Is there a link to Apple's patent too?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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I think we need a different form of patent.

Current patents attempt to claim: this thing I figured out is novel and nobody else should copy me.

Many times, they claim this so someone else can't claim it and thus avoid arbitration.

It would be nice if we could also file: this thing I figured out is not novel and is a natural progression to the current state-of-the-art.

I guess the only means of doing this currently is to attempt to invalidate a patent? Or maybe, a whole swath of patents?

There is nothing truly-novel here (IMHO.) This is like a toothbrush patent with a slightly different number of bristles than every other toothbrush patent in order to sell a toothbrush legally.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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It's pretty nontrivial to buy a majority interest in any public company. It's not like you can just spend 1/2 the current market cap to acquire it, the price will shoot up drastically as soon as the market is aware of someone (especially Apple) trying to do it.

As long as the cost is less than what apple makes from the watches annually, it would still be worth it, no?

Why annually?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Nothing of the sort. How does this statement reject a willingness to license?

That statement very much reads like they aren't willing to license unless they get final say on products using the tech. Which sounds quite unreasonable as a condition for patent licensing.

"If the horse doesn't want to drink my water"

I'm not depriving the horse of water because the horse doesn't want to drink!

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