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If someone is wondering about this, it has taken 46 years for voyager 1 to travel 22 light hours. fascinating.

I wonder in how many years from now, we can do the 46 years in 22 months? 22 days? 22 hours?

FYI, 22hrs would be about light speed, or a little over. Voyager 1 is at 162AU distance from Earth. 1AU takes about 8.3mins. 162AU would take about 1344.6mins, which is 22.41hrs.

So yeah, I'm eagerly looking forward to that day.

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So long as it isn't impossible, the improbable becomes inevitable at scales as vast as the universe.

Not really. Very large improbabilities require a lot more time than what the universe has been around for.

From our limited sampling, it happens with some measurable frequency.

Going from zero to one of something tends to be a lot less likely than going from one to two or more.

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> Voyager benefitted from a particular alignment of the planets to get multiple slingshot boosts from gravity wells. What exactly does that get us? It gets further into space faster? It travels faster? Cheaper to launch? I mean if it just means it leaves the solar system 20 years faster or something then it seems like cheaper launches far outweigh those favorable conditions.

Looks like once you escape earths orbit at 11km/s, you still need another 30km/s delta-v to then escape the solar system

Why do we need any additional speed to escape the solar system?

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Among my increasingly prized possessions is an original copy of Nasa's "Voyager Encounters Jupiter* report, detailing mission findings, and featuring some of the image highlights. Internet Archive, bless them, have this online: https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive_19800025809/mo... >

Looks like NASA provides it too: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19800025809

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Eh, the future of space travel and exploration is very bright.

I'm not so sure about that. Humanity is turning ever more inward and education is getting worse and worse with the peak somewhere in the 1950's. If we have a bright future in space travel none of the countries with launch capability today look like they will be the ones driving it.

It's not the countries anymore. The future is starship.

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My favorite graph of all time is the one that demonstrate Voyager 1 had left the solar system. I was a high school math and science teacher at the time, and I spent the whole day sharing this graph with students. It was so much fun watching everyone's faces and seeing the moment they realized what it really meant. https://phys.org/news/2012-10-voyager-left-solar.html

Why isn't it linear?

I didn’t understand it either but the pictures and graphs on this Wikipedia entry actually helped make a lot more sense of it to me, especially the analogy of the water faucet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere

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A ridiculously huge and powerful array of antennas spread across the planet. NASA has a dashboard online for the Deep Space Network and you can see live which spacecraft we're communicating with. The Voyagers are usually active any time I look.

How live is it? Voyager 1 seemed to be shown there just now.

According to the article, they can send commands to Voyager 1, and it executes them, and it is still sending data back - the problem is the data coming back is gibberish (repeated patterns of 0s and 1s). They are still hoping they can work out a sequence of commands to reset its computers and resolve the problem. So it makes sense the DSN is currently talking to it.

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The time to think of replacements has long passed, not to fly by the outer planets, but to achieve a greater velocity than the Voyagers and continue exploring the interstellar medium. Some other comments here mentioned the tech to do that: - ion propulsion - light sail And also nuclear fission might be an option, I like the fission fragment idea for its simplicity. [1][2] [1] https://www.nasa.gov/general/aerogel-core…

This is a fun option too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot

I guess this is what started “space laser weapon” conspiracy.

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How is it possible to still be able to get a signal from a spacecraft that's so far away? How can the antenna be directional enough while still being pointed right at the Earth? How do we remove the noise?

A ridiculously huge and powerful array of antennas spread across the planet. NASA has a dashboard online for the Deep Space Network and you can see live which spacecraft we're communicating with. The Voyagers are usually active any time I look.

> NASA has a dashboard online for the Deep Space Network and you can see live which spacecraft we're communicating with

https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html

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