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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by arbuge »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Could it be that those movements are pinching a nerve somewhere and causing the tinnitus?

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Post by [deleted] »

mrtksn wrote: post #198
zelphirkalt wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you describe in more detail how you adjust your position? You move your neck back, I guess, and anything else?

IIRC, when I was trying to mask the sound with the shower I noticed that it's not working when the water is cold or when I'm not comfortably under it. Then I had a few days of road trip without the laptop and noticed improvement when I was driving, sitting up straight. So I decided to work on this and bought a keyboard and a mouse and made myself a rule that I will always use the laptop with a stand or external displ…

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Post by imtringued »

I overslept today and I just woke up thirty minutes ago. A minute within waking up my brain feels under a lot of pressure and the accompanying tinnitus was very intensive. In fact I simultaneously have a headache.

As more time passes the intensity of the headache and tinnitus get lower by the minute. The idea that tinnitus is caused by hearing loss alone sounds like a load of bullshit. Tinnitus gets worse when I wear very tight headphones or when I am ill or when I move my jaw to apply more pressure to the head. If I could engineer some sort of machine to control the pressure applied to my head, I am pretty sure I could control the tinnitus.

Since I have built a mental model of when tinnitus is really bad and when it it is almost imperceptible, even the most intense tinnitus doesn't faze me and strikes me more as an annoyance like a mosquito buzzing around, because I know that it will go away. Weeks go by where I literally don't think a single thought about tinnitus, then suddenly, it strikes and can't be ignored, except I know it will go away so I ignore it regardless.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by lotsofpulp »

carrozo wrote: post #182
nsxwolf wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

There’s a whole subreddit dedicated to this, which they call “ear rumbling”: https://www.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/

Ear rumbling is not the same as tinnitus. I can make my ear rumble, and I also have tinnitus (constant ringing or high pitched frequency sound). At least I assume, I have never bothered getting it diagnosed by a doctor because I can easily ignore it and have for many years, I only notice it when not focusing on anything else and I happen to pay attention to it.

I assumed tinnitus was mostly caused by damaging the little hairs that sense sound becoming damaged from loud sounds and not working anymore, which I would have done with headphone use in my teens/early 20s.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by palla89 »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

I’ve an issue similar to yours, playing with my jaws especially yawning seems to increase the whistle while I’m doing it, then it come back to normal. I can hear it almost onyl at night and only in the right ear. Sometimes when I yawn a lot I can dismiss it totally (at least for that night) What the hell is this? I also did a hearing test and I’ve no problem.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by adamhp »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Same here. Mine is basically directly correlated with bite pressure. When I'm chewing sometimes I can literally hear the ringing going "wah, wah, wah" in time with my chewing. And if I grit my teeth I can make it get much louder than its baseline. Same if I open my jaw quite wide (sometimes this helps?). I've ground my teeth my whole life. And I can definitely point at one or two concerts that probably did some significant damage.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by itsboring »

nsxwolf wrote: post #97
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Interesting. I can “play my eardrums”, which I describe as the ability to consciously control something in my ears that causes a loud fluttering, ringing sound that is something like wind entering my ear canals combined with a bell. After some research I’ve found some people can control something called the “tensor tympani” and generate sounds described as a “roar” but being a subjective experience I am not certain t…

I always just assumed this was a normal thing that everyone had and never bothered to look it up. Sounds exactly like the roar of a high wind to me.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by itsboring »

jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Very interesting. Jutting my jaw forward makes a very obvious loud squeal at what sounds like a lower frequency than my normal background tinnitus. I never noticed that before.

I do clench my teeth a lot from anxiety and get muscle pain in the sides of my face on occasion. I wonder if that’s related.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Post by riedel »

itsboring wrote: post #259
jader201 wrote: post #96

I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

Very interesting. Jutting my jaw forward makes a very obvious loud squeal at what sounds like a lower frequency than my normal background tinnitus. I never noticed that before. I do clench my teeth a lot from anxiety and get muscle pain in the sides of my face on occasion. I wonder if that’s related.

Exactly the same for me.
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