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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by makeitdouble »

owenpalmer wrote: post #183
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

Not buying from Tesla because you hate Elon is just as silly as buying from Tesla because you love Elon.

There's an argument for the CEO's ethics and values to strongly guide the company.

If engineers sharing your views and concerns don't want to work there, how are you expecting those cars to fulfill your expectations and perform on the points you value ?

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Post by ahepp »

hobofan wrote: post #176
m3kw9 wrote: post #131

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These guys care about superficial things when likely the current car they brought has a similar “bad guy” that had a hand in making his vehicle. Ignorance at its best

I don't think you will find a lot of other CEOs of car companies publicly promoting antisemitism and most recently QAnon-type conspiracies.

I don't think I disagree with you in principle, but it's interesting to note that Henry Ford published a four volume book "The International Jew, the World's Foremost Problem". And Volkswagen was founded by the Nazis.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by slowhadoken »

whalesalad wrote: post #230
slowhadoken wrote: post #52

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weird, that's my favorite thing. I like old RoboCop movies though.

To each their own, I guess. To me it appears like a toy. I also love RoboCop movies (and live in Detroit, yeehaw)

you're having a little too much fun, cowboy. Turn in your badge and gun. You're suspended!

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by toomuchtodo »

roflyear wrote: post #231
toomuchtodo wrote: post #118

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I will take your reservation if you have one. I have one, but am looking for a second. I can like the cars but not like Elon, very little nuance required in holding the position [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37949037

Why do you like the cyber truck?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37934831

> I traded a Toyota full size pickup truck in for my first Tesla, a Model S, because Tesla needed to move units to survive. I'm looking forward to closing the loop, trading that Model S (with almost 110k miles on it after driving cross country in six years) in for my Cybertruck. It's ugly, I love it, I don't care what it costs.

I don't need a fancy EV. I want an EV I can beat the shit out of (steel body, no paint issues to contend with), tow with, and has native access to the Supercharger network (I live out of a duffel bag with a starlink dish and am constantly mobile across the continental US). I also don't want to support legacy auto, who had to be dragged to the EV transition by Tesla. Mission accomplished. That is worthy of my dollars. How others spend theirs is up to them.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by kibwen »

owenpalmer wrote: post #183
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

Not buying from Tesla because you hate Elon is just as silly as buying from Tesla because you love Elon.

If this were something like bread or water, then yes. But it's not. A Tesla is a luxury purchase, not an essential purchase. Nobody who chooses not to buy one because of Elon's stupid antics is going to suffer in absolutely any sense.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by re5i5tor »

jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

> Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

Exactly my feelings. Edit: actually disagree with “antics” — that softens reality — he’s telling us exactly who he is by his actions.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by golol »

sophacles wrote: post #222
owenpalmer wrote: post #183

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Not buying from Tesla because you hate Elon is just as silly as buying from Tesla because you love Elon.

Well no, buying from Tesla gives Elon money and legitimacy. If you don't like Musk, why would you contribute to his success?

Musk may be an asshole boss and he may post cringy right wing opinions on X, but trying to boycott his businesses based on those actions is quite disproportionate compared to the behaviors whole industries are engaging in regularly. Elon and his companies are in no way worse for the world than the average car manufacturer or businessman.

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Post by kibwen »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #248
sophacles wrote: post #222

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Well no, buying from Tesla gives Elon money and legitimacy. If you don't like Musk, why would you contribute to his success?

spacex and tesla already gave elon enough legitimacy for the history books.

Henry Ford and Wernher von Braun are also in the history books, but not always in the ways they might have hoped for.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by Swizec »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #233
Swizec wrote: post #188

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Here's a video about an intersection that had to be redesigned due to A-pillars. Vehicles approaching from opposite ends could hide in each other's blind spots and crash. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpgpE6wjF30 As a motorcyclist, I hide in people's A-pillar blind spots all the time. It's quite unnerving.

Interesting video, but I can't help but think the roadway is now worse. It's disjointed and there are two intersections instead of one. Why not install a red light or a roundabout?

Making it "worse" is the point. The practice is known as traffic calming road design – https://globaldesigningcities.org/publication/global-street-...

For example: Many rural towns put a giant unnecessary corner on the road entering the town. Forcing you to slow down and obey the speed limit. Or the road splits in two just to go around a pretty sculpture someone decided to put in the middle of the road. Again to force you to slow down naturally.

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