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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #101

I woke up and the first thing on my mind was, "Any update on the drama?" Did not expect to see this whole thing still escalating! WOW! What a power move by MSFT. I'm not even sure OpenAI will exist by the end of the week at this rate. Holy moly.

By the end of the week is over-optimistic. Foe the last 3 days feels like million year. I bet the company will be gone by the time Emmett Shear wakes up

Is this final stages of the singularity?

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #167

Imagine if the end result of all it is Microsoft basically owning the whole OpenAI

Surely OpenAI has assets that Microsoft wouldn't be able to touch.

Probably just the trademark. I doubt you get 10B from microsoft and still manage to maintain much independence.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #17

This was handled so very, very poorly. Frankly it's looking like Microsoft is going to come out of this better than anyone, especially if they end up getting almost 500 new AI staff out of it (staff that already function well as a team). > In their letter, the OpenAI staff threaten to join Altman at Microsoft. “Microsoft has assured us that there are positions for all OpenAI employees at this new subsidiary should we…

> Frankly it's looking like Microsoft is going to come out of this better than anyone

Sounds like that's what someone wants and is trying to obfuscate what's going on behind the scenes.

If Windows 11 shows us anything about Microsoft's monopolistic behavior, having them be the ring of power for LMM's makes the future of humanity look very bleak.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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What a bunch of immatures.

If anything this proves that everybody is replaceable and fireable, they should be happy because usually that treatment is only reserved to workers.

Whatever made OpenAI successful will still be there within the company. Next man up philosophy has built so many amazing organizations and ruined none.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #20

At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

We can certainly believe Ilya wasn't behind it if he joins them at Microsoft. How about that? By his own admission was involved, and he's one of 4 people on the board. While he has called on the board to resign, he has seemingly not resigned which would be the one thing he could certainly control.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In hindsight firing Sam was a self-destructing gamble by the OpenAI board. Initially it seemed Sam may have committed some inexcusable financial crime but doesn't look so anymore. Irony is that if a significant portion of OpenAI staff opt to join Microsoft, then Microsoft essentially killed their own $13B investment in OpenAI earlier this year. Better than acquiring for $80B+ I suppose.

There's acquihires and then I guess there's acquifishing where you just gut the company you're after like a fish and hire away everyone without bothering to buy the company. There's probably a better portmanteau. I seriously doubt Microsoft is going to make people whole by granting equivalent RSUs, so you have to wonder what else is going on that so many seem ready to just up and leave some very large potential payda…

How about: acquimire

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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I think it was Mark Zuckerberg that described (pre-Elon) Twitter as a clown car that fell into a gold mine. Reminds me a bit of the Open AI board. Most of them I'd never heard of either.

This makes the old twitter look like the Wehrmacht in comparison.

The old twitter did not decide to randomly detonate themselves when they were worth $80 billion. In fact they found a sucker to sell to, right before the market crashed on perpetually loss-making companies like twitter.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #224

And now we see who has the real power here. Let this be a lesson to both private and non-profit companies. Boards, investors, executives... the structure of your entity doesn't matter if you wake any of the dragons: 1. Employees 2. Customers 3. Government

This is 1 in 200000 event

Are you trying to day it's rare or not rare?

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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I hear Microsoft is hiring... the board should have resigned on Friday, Saturday the latest because of how they handled this and it is insane if they don't resign now.

Employees are the most affected stakeholders here and the board utterly failed in their duty of care towards people that were not properly represented in the board room. One thing they could do is to unionize and then force that they be given a board seat.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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post #20

At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

At this point, after almost 3 days of non-stop drama, and we still have no clue what has happened to a 700 employees company under million of people watching. Regardless the outcome, the art of keeping secrets at OpenAI is truly far beyond human capability!
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