Why are people so excited about Sam and Greg joining Microsoft? The only value Sam brought to OpenAI was connections and being able to bring funding. But that's not something Microsoft needs, so what value does Sam give them?
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect. Except if Sam and Greg have some anti-compete clauses. If they join MS, they have a nice 10 billion USD leverage against any lawsuites.
In California the anti-compete clauses are not enforceable, afaik
I don't know, even of strictly "enforceable" I doubt we will see it enforced. And if so. I'm sure the settlement will be fairly gentle.
Edit: Actually, a quick skim of the relevant code, the only relevant exception seems to be about owners selling their ownership interest. Seemingly, since Sam doesn't own OpenAI shares, this exception would seem to not apply.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....
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#253Microsoft is setup to create shareholder value. That's it. Both of them will eventually find it moot to advance tech so a few folks get richer.
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#254Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.
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#255Why are people so excited about Sam and Greg joining Microsoft? The only value Sam brought to OpenAI was connections and being able to bring funding. But that's not something Microsoft needs, so what value does Sam give them?
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Satya will probably allow them to run a startup under the MS umbrella without interference and with full MS backing.
Highly unlikely. Instead they'll be working on internal Windows AI tools for chatbots and random AI features in Windows. We all lose in this situation.
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#257I don't see why people want to race to build AGI at all costs. On the balance this probably slows things down, so: good. Not sorry about Sam, first off I'm not assuming we know everything and second I'm more inclined to trust the board. Also it seems he was trying to do a secret hardware venture on the side, which would be several kinds of unethical. Again: good.
People will sell their souls and the souls of others for power and greed.
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#258How to kill your company in one week?
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#259Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft
#260What is Sam's actual value re: AI and not just as a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.