Sam and his friends will land on their feet, likely at $NVDA
I think sam is smart enough to not waste his time inside a corporate mill.
Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
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Perhaps you could argue that he wants to stick with Sam and the others because if they start a company that competes with OpenAI, there’s a real chance they catch up and surpass OpenAI. If you really want to be a voice for safety, it’ll be most effective if you’re on the winning team.
One funny detail is that the OpenAI charter states that, if this happens, they will stop their own work and help the organisation that is closest to achieving OpenAI's stated goal.
Maybe Sam wants to build something for profit?
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The world needs more truly open source AI models where the success and outcomes do not depend on a single figurehead or a corporation.
Who grey-texted this comment? So confused who could disagree with it. Is that the problem, this comment is so obviously true, it's just redundant?
The problem is that you cannot finance the training of a competitive AI model and then turn around and give it all away for free.
Who's supposed to pay for that?
Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
#254I'm embarrassed to say, being Polish myself, I had no idea that key people in OpenAI were Polish - I assume it was a coordinated resignation then. Madry is actually spelled Mądry, which translates to "Wise".
Why make this about nationality?
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80h a week doing stuff does not prove your level at it, it proves your work capacity. Being good at something lies in the result and/or appreciation of your work by skilled pairs, which also seem to be there.
So why even claim he did 80 hours a week coding, while also being the chairman of the board? Can we get a pllleeeeeeaaaase???? He’s clearly a terrible programmer and/or a terrible chairman and to be honest this news says he’s at least 1 of 2 on the above.
Or perhaps he's just a really exceptional person.
I don't see any comments here claiming that it's something that most people could do well.
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Google doesn’t care if you’re going elsewhere to ask deep questions about Rust or whatever. They care way more that people go to them to look for the best bread mixer, or find a good restaurant, or a local massage therapist. In that regard I think Amazon is still a much bigger threat to them. GPT is very useful as a knowledge tool, but I don’t see people going there to make purchasing decisions. It replaces stackover…
Yea. No. People stopping to use google for the small stuff will be the beginning of the end of google being the mental default for searches.
There is a wide variety of services available to people for specific use cases. When stack overflow came along, I used that for programming questions instead of google. But I still use google for most other searches.
I go to Amazon if I want to find a book or a specific product.
For the latest news, I come here, or Reddit, or sometimes twitter.
If I want to look up information about a famous person or topic, I go to Wikipedia (usually via google search). I know I can ask ChatGPT, but Wikipedia is generally more up to date, well-written and highly scrutinized by humans.
The jury’s still out on exactly what role ChatGPT will serve in the long term, but we’ve seen this kind of unbundling many times before and Google is still just as popular and useful as ever.
It seems like GPT’s killer app is helping guide your learning of a new topic, like having a personal tutor. I don’t see that replacing all aspects of a general purpose search engine though.
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actually is the opposite, it would democratize power at an unprecedented scale, that's why corporations are funding these NGO's (useful idiots)
Through what mechanism would it democratize power? I thought the GPTs were already limited to regular end users due to computational constraints. Most people can't afford dozens of Nvidia GPUs and the API infrastructure to data mine.
computers used to fill rooms and now you carry one in your pocket
Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
80h a week doing stuff does not prove your level at it, it proves your work capacity. Being good at something lies in the result and/or appreciation of your work by skilled pairs, which also seem to be there.
So why even claim he did 80 hours a week coding, while also being the chairman of the board? Can we get a pllleeeeeeaaaase???? He’s clearly a terrible programmer and/or a terrible chairman and to be honest this news says he’s at least 1 of 2 on the above.
You really think they'd let him anywhere near any of those two roles if he was pumping out tire fire code into production and constantly spewing erratic BS at strategy meetings the last eight years? Please.
Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI
#259Aleksander in particular is deeply invested in AI safety as a mission. It's a very confusing departure, since most of the reporting so far indicates that Ilya and the board fired Sam to prioritize safety and non-profit objectives. A huge loss for OpenAI nonetheless.
> most of the reporting so far indicates that Ilya and the board fired Sam to prioritize safety and non profit objectives
Maybe Ilya discovered something as head of AI safety research, something bad, and they had to act on it. From the outside it looks as if they are desperately trying to gain control. Maybe he got confirmation that LLMs are a little bit conscious, LOL. No, I am not making this up: https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1491554478243258368
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I’d recommend trying to build out your systems to work across LLMs where you can. Create an interface layer and for now maybe use OpenAI and Vertex as a couple of options. Vertex is handy as while not always as good you may find it works well for some tasks and it can be a lot cheaper for those. If you build out this way then when the next greatest LLM comes out you can plug that into your interface and switch the ta…
The problem is swapping LLMs can require rework of all your prompts, and you may be relying on specific features of OpenAI. If you don't then you are at a disadvantage or at least slowing down your work.
Isn’t the expectation that “prompt engineering” is going to become unnecessary as models continue to improve? Other models may be lagging behind GPT4 but not by much.