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Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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post #218

I'm imagining a bunch of Tech Priests doing rituals and chanting in front of the data center to encourage the Machine Spirit to restart.

I believe the chants sound more or less like this: https://youtu.be/0ZZb12Qp6-0?feature=shared&t=76

Gang gang ice cream so good yum rawr yum pumpkin yum yum gang gang balloons pop pop

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

#252

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The point is, OpenAI spent a lot of money on training on all these copyrighted materials ordinary individuals/companies don't have access to, so replicating their effort would mean that you either 1) spend a ridiculous amount of money, 2) use Library Genesis (and still pay millions for GPU usage). So we have very little choice now. Open Source LLMs might be getting close to ChatGPT3 (opinions vary), but OpenAI is sti…

the choice is to live 2 years behind (e.g. integrate the open source stuff and ride that wave of improvement). for businesses in a competitive space, that’s perhaps untenable. but for individuals and anywhere else where this stuff is just a “nice to have”, that’s really just the long-term sustainable approach. it reminds me of a choice like “do i host my website on a Windows Server, or a Linux box” at a time when bot…

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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

#253
post #16

All tech folks should just get a PTO today . #ChatGPT_outage Am I supposed to use Google and Stack overflow ? That’s like going back to roll down windows in a car :)

I don't get any time off. My full-time job is cleaning up after people who've been using ChatGPT.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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post #29

It's at least nice to see a company call this what it is (a "major outage") - seems like most status pages would be talking about "degraded performance" or similar.

I suspect this is because they don't have contracts with enforceable SLAs yet. When they do, you will see more 'degraded performance'. People get credits for 'outages', but if it is sometimes working for someone somewhere then that is the convenient fiction/loophole a lot of companies use.

One CFO forced us to use AWS status data for the SLA reports to key clients. One dev was even pulled aside to make a branded page that reported AWS status as our own and made a big deal about forcing support to share the page when a client complained.

It wasn't a happy workplace

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is, OpenAI spent a lot of money on training on all these copyrighted materials ordinary individuals/companies don't have access to, so replicating their effort would mean that you either 1) spend a ridiculous amount of money, 2) use Library Genesis (and still pay millions for GPU usage). So we have very little choice now. Open Source LLMs might be getting close to ChatGPT3 (opinions vary), but OpenAI is sti…

Don't underestimate Big Corp's resistance to using OpenAI's hosted solutions (even on Azure) for anything that's not marketing fluff.

Marketing fluff is what 90% of tech is... it amazes me how many people think otherwise on hacker news. Unless you are building utility systems that run power plants, at the end of the day -- you're doing marketing fluff or the tools for it.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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No, this is silly reasoning. A middle manager somewhere has no clue what Java 5 is. But he does know -- or let's say IMAGINES what he knows about ChatGPT. And unlike Java 5-- he just needs to use his departmental budget and instantly mandate that his team now use ChatGPT. Whatever that means you can argue it. But ChatGPT is a front line technology and super accessible. Java 5 is super back end and very specialized. T…

Honest question: do you really mean Java 5 when you say Java 5? It sounds a bit 2000s to me.

In 2016 I worked on a project with a client who still mandated that all code was written to the Java 1.1 language specification - no generics, no enums, no annotations, etc., not to even mention all the stuff that's come since 1.5 (or Java 5, or whatever you want to call it). They had Reasons(tm), which after filtering through the nonsense mostly boiled down to the CTO being curmudgeonly and unwilling to approve replacing a hand-written code transformer that he had personally written back in the stone ages and that he 1) considered core to their product, and 2) considered too risky to replace, because obviously there were no tests covering any of the core systems...sigh. At least they ran it all on a modern JVM.

But no, it would not surprise me to find a decent handful of large companies still writing Java 5 code; it would surprise me a bit more to find many still using that JVM, since you can't even get paid support through Oracle anymore, but I'm sure someone out there is doing it. Never underestimate the "don't touch it, you might break it" sentiment at non-tech companies, even big ones with lots of revenue, they routinely understaff their tech departments and the people who built key systems may have retired 20 years ago at this point so it's really risky to do any sort of big system migration. That's why so many lines of COBOL are still running.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is, OpenAI spent a lot of money on training on all these copyrighted materials ordinary individuals/companies don't have access to, so replicating their effort would mean that you either 1) spend a ridiculous amount of money, 2) use Library Genesis (and still pay millions for GPU usage). So we have very little choice now. Open Source LLMs might be getting close to ChatGPT3 (opinions vary), but OpenAI is sti…

the choice is to live 2 years behind (e.g. integrate the open source stuff and ride that wave of improvement). for businesses in a competitive space, that’s perhaps untenable. but for individuals and anywhere else where this stuff is just a “nice to have”, that’s really just the long-term sustainable approach. it reminds me of a choice like “do i host my website on a Windows Server, or a Linux box” at a time when bot…

> it reminds me of a choice like “do i host my website on a Windows Server, or a Linux box” at a time when both of these things are new.

Oof, you reminded me of when I chose to use Flow and then TypeScript won.

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