Lab leak fight casts chill over virology research • Hacker News Board

Re: Lab leak fight casts chill over virology research

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Post by shadowgovt » Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 12:34 PM UTC

nvm0n2 wrote: post #250

shadowgovt wrote: post #222

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Part of me wishes the international virology community was as coordinated as you imagine. It would be nice if we could place the blame on a shadow cabal who sickened the world on purpose for grant money. It would be convenient. The real world is not nearly that tidy. Most of the Wuhan lab researchers' counterparts don't even speak Chinese, and you're imagining some kind of international conspiracy to drum up a diseas…

You're a virologist then? That would make sense given your other replies. > Part of me wishes the international virology community was as coordinated as you imagine It's pretty damn coordinated and we have the receipts to prove it. Sorry for you if you're not in the loop, but when you read chat transcripts, meeting notes, and emails where they literally organize a conspiracy to shut down all public discussion, and no…

Most of what you're just wrote is flatly untrue. If there are receipts, post them.

Re: Lab leak fight casts chill over virology research

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Post by kylebenzle » Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

fzeroracer wrote: post #122

somenameforme wrote: post #110

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Vaccines have no effect on whether a virus mutates to become milder or more virulent. Effective vaccines, which prevent spread, can eliminate a disease, but clearly the COVID vaccines failed on that front. So for instance the Spanish Flu was an unimaginably brutal disease that primarily killed people in the 20-40 year old range! [1] Just terrifying stuff. But it never disappeared. It's still with us today as a varian…

Yes, and the flu is milder both because of vaccination and the way it's evolved. But even the seasonal flu kills quite a few people every year, the reason why we think it to be milder is because we've gotten used to how it primarily affects vaccinated people. Like what you've done there is a fallacy a lot of people commit, that they conflate seasonal viruses, colds, allergies etc with the flu. But when you actually g…

No one thinks the flu is mild. Ask ANY doctor or nurse, have "the flu" is hell on earth. You are thinking of the common cold.

Re: Lab leak fight casts chill over virology research

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Post by kylebenzle » Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 10:02 PM UTC

akira2501 wrote: post #62

kylebenzle wrote: post #55

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Even if it was accidentally leaked? That's extreme. I work with transgenic, not viruses, but mistakes happen and the death penalty for researchers is crazy.

There was a specific legal ban on this type of research, yet, the researchers continued anyways. It may have been "an accident," but that really doesn't afford them any excuse.

We do this research everyday. Mutating a virus is not illegal, why do you even say that.