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I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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I’ve run a 15-person agency for 14 years (bootstrapping), and the stress can’t be underestimated. I know plenty of agencies who have either switched to products or just sold up / closed. Using associates is a good option if you have a good network, however, it can be just as stressful if they don’t deliver.

> switched to products This is always a temptation for agencies which almost never works out. They underestimate the effort to build a product. They also typically don't have the skill or experience to build a high quality product that can compete with the whole world.

Perhaps, I know around 5-6 agencies that have made this work.

I don't think they underestimate the effort or lack the skills; the issue is trying to do both - grow the agency and launch a product.

The ones which made it either split the agency or stopped doing client work.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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I'm feeling something similar now. I'm doing freelance work about 20 hours a week making my previous income level. So far each project has ended because the company wants me to go full time with them. The challenge hasn't been finding work, it's been keeping it part-time free lance or quitting.

They want that sweet sweet FTE discount and unlimited hours.

Yeah. They want me to work for twice hours at half the pay. Lol.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #249

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Capitalism is so much more (and worse) than that. And “you criticize society yet you participate in it” is never a noteworthy/ relevant observation.

That was not my point. My point was that she has the freedom to hustle all she wants or to do it the way she is. That's great.

But you imply it’s because of free markets / capitalism that enables it and it makes her a hypocrite. That’s implied.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #249

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That was not my point. My point was that she has the freedom to hustle all she wants or to do it the way she is. That's great.

But you imply it’s because of free markets / capitalism that enables it and it makes her a hypocrite. That’s implied.

I'm trying to separate the ideas here. She uses the term "capitalist imperative of growth". I would say that is a culture that has formed withing our economic system not a required or desirable part of it. Free markets however are something different. They are simply the freedom to transact. That freedom is something good. An example of the beauty of that freedom is the Authors ability to live the life she wants while others get to live the lives they want working like crazy people.

Once you separate the ideas there is no implication of hypocrisy.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #175

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If you are paying taxes, you should get a new accountant.

What do you mean by this? When I was freelancing the taxes were very steep (US). I felt the system promoted people working for corps.

It means you are not "expensing" or deducting everything possible. Technically, yes, your only expenses are a laptop. But a good account will find way more: home office, legible meals or travels, investments, etc.. This should reduce your tax bill. You should never pay over 10% total, otherwise you are not maxing the system.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you imply it’s because of free markets / capitalism that enables it and it makes her a hypocrite. That’s implied.

I'm trying to separate the ideas here. She uses the term "capitalist imperative of growth". I would say that is a culture that has formed withing our economic system not a required or desirable part of it. Free markets however are something different. They are simply the freedom to transact. That freedom is something good. An example of the beauty of that freedom is the Authors ability to live the life she wants whil…

She hates capitalism

You define capitalism (incorrectly) as free markets

You point out her freedom depends op free markets

So she hates “free markets” but she is able to work this way because of it: she’s a hypocrite.

Don’t gaslight.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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Oh my... finally a topic I'm well acquainted with.

Source: Solo digital agency owner (6yrs here in Australia) who's been up, down, up, and recently made the decision to roll back to a single person consulting firm that's now WFH (gone from WFH - Office - WFH & 10 FTE to 0 )

I've found the last 3 years hugely difficult as an agency owner, when people are your business it cannot be underestimated how challenging (read: stressful) it can be. I got to the point where I was so anxious about opening my inbox in the morning.

However, there are ABSOULTELY some types of agencies that do work well and can scale effectively. Interestingly, these seem to be mostly accounting firms. Who in recent times have been able to easily add capacity through off-shore labour, who's client expectations are comparatively low and who's business is largely unaffected by the macro - You still need to do your bookkeeping at the end of the day! This makes for half decent retention rates and your customers don't expect a bookkeeper to solve every problem in their business.

The WORST type of agency to build is the mid-tier marketing agency or even bespoke dev firm - You get clients who are highly demanding and staff who are relatively expensive (agency owners will be nodding their heads here)... And it leads to a stuck-in-the-middle feeling where its hard to get out of the 5-10 person range and build any scale, and you'd honestly be more profitable and less stressed as a single person consultancy.

We used to work with large enterprise, and this is probably when we were most profitable. However, these types of customers have differing challenges and remote-style firms are at a disadvantage unless their sales teams are located where the big fish are.

The idea that agencies are 'booked without trying' is laughable. You get this by doing great work consistently over a long period of time, exceeding customer expectations and staying in constant contact with prospects. And this comes from great people... But you first need the work to be able to hire great people, which comes from the grind of agency sales. It doesn't change, no matter if your WPP or a local agency. Your pipeline is your lifeblood and what enables you to choose the right type of work.

If I did it again, I'd be looking at segments of the market where you can build easier client expectations and have more cost effective/simpler delivery, as ultimately this is where the game is won. I'd also be doing it with another 1-2 founders so that we could better achieve more freedom for each founder (as ultimately, this is a large drawcard alongside financial rewards to start). Id then leverage the cashflow better in productising... But in all honestly, I do think a large portion of you needs to like the 'work'.

On exit (if you're lucky), you're also stuck with more lengthy exit conditions. Meaning even when you want out, you're going to be tied up with the business in order to support the transition of clients.

On the flipside, I have found it to be pretty lonely just working away on client work. For some this is OK and I guess it seems novel, or maybe fits your lifestyle? But for me it's difficult because I always found it rewarding to be building things together with a team. That feeling of alignment when everyone is building the same thing is cool.

In some ways, its never been easier to start a serviced-based firm. However, in others, it feels like it has never been harder.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to separate the ideas here. She uses the term "capitalist imperative of growth". I would say that is a culture that has formed withing our economic system not a required or desirable part of it. Free markets however are something different. They are simply the freedom to transact. That freedom is something good. An example of the beauty of that freedom is the Authors ability to live the life she wants whil…

She hates capitalism You define capitalism (incorrectly) as free markets You point out her freedom depends op free markets So she hates “free markets” but she is able to work this way because of it: she’s a hypocrite. Don’t gaslight.

I'm not gaslighting you. I'm telling you what I think and what I mean.

What a terrible thing to accuse me of.

Now you're just being a jerk.

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She hates capitalism You define capitalism (incorrectly) as free markets You point out her freedom depends op free markets So she hates “free markets” but she is able to work this way because of it: she’s a hypocrite. Don’t gaslight.

I'm not gaslighting you. I'm telling you what I think and what I mean. What a terrible thing to accuse me of. Now you're just being a jerk.

It’s basic reading comprehension, your original text clearly calls her out on hating capitalism yet depending on it according your own definition of capitalism.

I’m happy to be called a jerk by someone who is clearly dishonest and gaslights

https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/

Re: I don’t want to grow my freelance design studio into an agency

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post #258

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I'm not gaslighting you. I'm telling you what I think and what I mean. What a terrible thing to accuse me of. Now you're just being a jerk.

It’s basic reading comprehension, your original text clearly calls her out on hating capitalism yet depending on it according your own definition of capitalism. I’m happy to be called a jerk by someone who is clearly dishonest and gaslights https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/

That is not was I'm saying!

For one I did not say you are a jerk. I said you are being a jerk. That is a description of your specific actions not you as a person.

To have a reasonable conversation you must allow people to explain their meaning. Not impart your own meaning into their words.

To accuse me of being dishonest and gaslighting is not warranted.

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