Bluesky trying to go the way of Clubhouse with their invite-only clownshow
Worked well for Google+ as well lol
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet users use HN, Discord, and many other forums. I think "there can be only one" is what's misguided.
I think over the past couple of decades the market has proven out that there can really only be one in a niche
I disagree. It’s obviously wrong in the general case (e.g. look at note-taking or messaging apps), and there are all kinds of discussion forums with overlapping topics. Facebook, Instagram, Telegram, Discord, Mastodon and Twitter all have overlapping use cases. Maybe my view is colored by not caring about “the market”. But there’s certainly space for more than one micro-blogging platform.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well Threads currently doesn’t even have a chronological, non-algo feed I can look at, whereas on bluesky you can have any number of feeds with whatever algo/logic you want. None of that matters if the people you follow are on Threads but aren’t on Bluesky. And if the people you follow can’t get on Bluesky even if they wanted to, then off to Threads they will go and so everybody else will follow.
But there's a key difference: If your friends aren't on Bluesky yet, it's quite possibly because they haven't gotten an invite code yet. Plenty of people are very interested and waiting to join. I've been inviting friends as I've received codes. It is an entirely different dynamic than just an unpopular social network, and it is perceived very differently (and not at all negatively).
We've been through this process once before with google+. It was the new SoMe which "everyone" wanted access to, but they nerfed their own growth with their invite system.
Sure, it chugged on for a few years, until it was inevitably killed-by-google.
The same thing will happen with Bluesky
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#254The dirty little secret about Bluesky is that it's actually pretty goddamn great on the inside. I have never in my life had normals asking for a social media invite, but I currently have a list of fourteen people waiting for a code. It works, feels, tastes, shares, and functions like Classic Twitter without the waves of repugnant users or miserably overbaked features. Collaborative mute lists make screening out horse…
> I currently have a list of fourteen people waiting for a code. That tends to happen when there's an exclusive club, people want to peak in. It is, in no way, an indication of the quality of the platform. > the waves of repugnant users or miserably overbaked features. That tends to happen when there's hardly any users at all. The "repugnant" or "normals" will flock in all the same, if the platform ever takes off. >…
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too late IMO. Twitter the incumbent, Threads just popped up out of nowhere with a whole heap of users. People switch when other people switch, generally. Those tired of Twitter now have an easy place to call home, there's not going to be any momentum to then want to switch again. Mastodon tried, and did get some following, but IMO is too complicated in concept for the common user. Bsky on the other hand just blew it.
Threads is federating with Mastodon, which is good for both of them.
I’ll be so amazed if they don’t chop that off very early. Embrace Extend Extinguish
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
> fairly standard to have an EU lag For obvious reasons, like the reasons the person you replied to mentioned: privacy violating features block apps like Threads from entering the EU market. That's a good thing.
No it's just that often waiting for legal to validate you're ok to run in the EU isn't worth waiting around for. Better to launch in the USA and deal with the EU as needed.
They dont need a permit or paperwork, they just need to copy and paste the t's & c's from their two existing platforms.
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#257Unnecessary, pointless, expensive features are precisely how you define the inverse of the original Twitter vision. Bare minimum but fast message passing as a social communication layer. If all of these new platforms are trying to become a better or more bloated version of what Twitter has become , then they will never catch on like the viral tool that Twitter originally was. None of them learned the lesson of google…
Identity management is the biggest issue with social media. I'm on mastodon, but my "identity" is tied directly to the server instance that I'm on. If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity". If my "identity" was tied to a domain I owned then keeping it would be as simple as changing a few DNS settings. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's actually going to be an…
> If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity".
So run your own instance?
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I currently have a list of fourteen people waiting for a code. That tends to happen when there's an exclusive club, people want to peak in. It is, in no way, an indication of the quality of the platform. > the waves of repugnant users or miserably overbaked features. That tends to happen when there's hardly any users at all. The "repugnant" or "normals" will flock in all the same, if the platform ever takes off. >…
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What is the thing that Nazis do?
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm surely bikeshedding, but isn't Bluesky a terrible name for a social network?
So is "Threads" in my opinion. But I downloaded Threads regardless.
How is it bad? I hate Facebook as much as the next folk, but Threads is pretty good because it's the most possible generic name you could give a Twitter clone. The term has been in use since the 90s to refer to the format of basically every textual exchange, and IMO it works exactly because it's so shallow.
Also props to the logo designer, I really like the fact that it's a thread.
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#260I don't understand the emphasis on "identity management" or "account portability". It has from the beginning been the single justification I have heard from the atproto people for reinventing the ActivityPub wheel.
One thing that is good about the internet has always been that nobody needs to know you're a dog. That you can move between worlds and identities as much as you want. That there is a hard break between my identity, and my social media accounts. I don't want a social security number on the internet!
This push here to decentralize oddly seems to amount to a kind of centralization of the one thing regular users probably dont want centralized! People like having alts, characters, fungible and plural accounts. Atproto argues that, in fact, this a problem to solve, and enough of one to justify creating an entire protocol to compete with activitypub. I am just not convinced of that pitch.