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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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This has been scuttlebutt (inc the name) for at least a few months. The big thing was the ActivityPub compatibility

Is the activitypub compatibility confirmed?

Not officially, but it’s about as unofficially confirmed as it’s possible to be. Though I have no idea if it’ll be available at launch.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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As a Mastodon/Fediverse user, I hope the rumors that this is based on ActivityPub are true. I'd love for there to be an easy-to-use interface for everyone that brings more people and content into the Fediverse.

Most big servers seem to be in a pact to defederate from Facebook before it even goes online. I also remember the rumours stating that the Federation part was exclusively targeting large Mastodon servers, and also mostly unidirectional (from Mastodon to Threads). I don't think the federation support will be all that great from what I've heard. But who knows, maybe it'll bring the Fediverse to the mainstream.

So for the record, the author of the "pact" has been publishing blatant fiction under the guises of "unverified rumors" and nearly everything you said here falls into that. All of it has been confirmed false by either Meta or representatives of the fediverse who met with Meta.

Meta isn't making any special deals with large servers and basically no large servers have signed the pact. Most of the pact signatories are single user servers or similar, there's a handful of small to medium sized ones, and even those who are defederating Meta will not defederate the servers that do federate with Meta.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Agreed. I think this succeeds or fails based on the ability to follow different kinds of things from users separately. If I can follow someone's Threads and not their Reels, I'd be glad to have such an easy migration path off of Twitter (I'm having a lot of fun on bluesky, but it's not ready). I'm not optimistic about that though, because you already can't choose to not follow reels separately from pictures.

I never got a Bluesky invite and I've seen a couple comments mentioning "it's not ready" so I'm wondering why people keep saying that? It has been in development for a while, so I would assume it is ready at this point in time.

Bluesky feels like a beta. It's missing: DMs, private accounts, gif/video embeds, and any sort of advanced notification controls. They don't have a trust and safety team, and they're using the invite system to slow down their growth because they can't keep up with demand. It's fun at its current small scale, but they aren't ready to be a Twitter replacement yet.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Totally agree with that. It’s kind of like Reddit vs HN, the latter of which I’m done with..:I just feel more like a person here

Latter refers to the item at the end of the list, i.e. that HN is the one you're done with. Prior is one of the words that's acceptable to refer to the start of the list.

>Prior is one of the words

I hear former more commonly than prior. Out of geo-curiosity, where is prior used?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

You forgot Friendfeed which I believe was the engine behind Facebook feed when it shifted to auto-pull.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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This has been known to be coming for quite a while, so it’s probably just opportune timing on their part being close enough to ready to ship. But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are.

> But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are I think that pretty much nails it. This is Zuckerberg's life - social media & nearby segments - and he's still in his prime (very active, attentive to threats / paranoid) as a competitor in the business sphere. If you give him an opening to cripple Twitter opportunistically, he's going to take a shot. Did Musk think Twitter actually ha…

> Did Musk think Twitter actually had a moat

It kind of did, just by network effects, but he’s spent the last 6+ months systematically filling it in. This last weekend might be the walls crumbling down

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I feel like Twitter could have launched “Nests” (flocks?) to replace subreddits in the face of a Reddit exodus and pretty much just reskinned twitter for the specific use case. Hashtags as top level organizing taxonomy (to replace subreddit). Then tweets as your “posts” with nested replies. Twitter had the infrastructure to just hit the ground running too.

They already have exactly this, it's called "Communities" and not very heavily used.

edit: great idea though it functions pretty much exactly as you described, get into product if you're not yet!

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Agreed. I think this succeeds or fails based on the ability to follow different kinds of things from users separately. If I can follow someone's Threads and not their Reels, I'd be glad to have such an easy migration path off of Twitter (I'm having a lot of fun on bluesky, but it's not ready). I'm not optimistic about that though, because you already can't choose to not follow reels separately from pictures.

I never got a Bluesky invite and I've seen a couple comments mentioning "it's not ready" so I'm wondering why people keep saying that? It has been in development for a while, so I would assume it is ready at this point in time.

I just checked, I have some invite codes!

I’ll DM you!

EDIT: realised you can’t DM on HN

How can I send a code to you? If you want one that is, you might not be bothered :-)

EDIT EDIT: I’m using the Hack App on my Phone, I think maybe I can DM followers from the desktop site?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Twitter will persist as long as Journalists stay on it, and everyone paying attention knows that, including Musk.

Journalists are trying to find places to move over their audience since twitter put their audience behind a login screen

Mastodon already has an instance that a lot of journalists have joined - journa.host.

It's free and open to the world and they can just join any other server too if desirable.

I'm still looking for major outlets to set up their own servers and be able to follow name@newsorg.com accounts for their staff.

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