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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by COGlory »

nerdix wrote: post #224
vorpalhex wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A subreddit is made up of users, not an entry on reddit. Reddit can do whatever they want with their site but they can't force users to do anything.

Thats why I argue that the boycott should be user driven and not mod driven. Let each user individually decide if they want to boycott rather than trying to force everyone into a boycott but shutting down entire subs.

Every subreddit I read that closed down first had a poll. All the polls were overwhemlingly for closing indefinitely.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by llbeansandrice »

nerdix wrote: post #213
bytesizedbitch wrote: post #99

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I used to moderate a support subreddit, we eventually moved to Discord and encouraged everyone to move there as well. Behaviour such as only supports our move.

Ironically, discord doesn't support use of third party clients and you risk an account ban if you use one of the many unofficial clients.

It’s obviously not really about the ability to use 3rd party clients. It’s because of the sudden change and the official app being flaming garbage.

This wouldn’t be an issue at all if the official reddit app was even half as good as the worst of the 3rd party clients and reddit actually providing parity in mod tools across their own clients. I have to go to new reddit to do multiple mod actions.

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Post by 1024core »

bnralt wrote: post #170
CommieBobDole wrote: post #123

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> If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd probably laugh. That's technically true, but that's because nobody today really thinks about Reddit AMAs, because there are fairly few of them and they're mostly lousy. When they employed Victoria, AMAs were frequent and involved high-profile public figures engaging with the users i…

> With the result that Reddit lost a popular, interesting feature and a lot of cultural relevance. Looking through /r/IAMA, and I can't say that I'm seeing that. If you look through the top voted AMA's of all time there, the vast majority are some years after Victoria's departure. Comparing those to the few on there from prior to her departure doesn't seem to show much of a difference, at least from what I can tell.…

> If you look through the top voted AMA's of all time there

That doesn't account for user growth though. You should normalize the figures by dividing by the total number of Reddit users, or at least IAmA subscribers.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by 0x6461188A »

Did they change the code of conduct to retroactively put the protesting mods in violation? Reddit management does not realize this but these actions make them look worse and reduces the attractiveness of Reddit as a platform for the 99% readers who are not mods.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by joshstrange »

freeAgent wrote: post #157

Mods should engage in malicious compliance. Historically, Reddit has done absolutely nothing to help communities suffering from malicious moderation, including banning users and censoring posts without good reason. Mods can just open up their subs, but start moderating in such a way that they drive away users. Reddit would look very hypocritical removing mods who do this now when they have been fine with that sort of…

In the last week Reddit has shown it has no qualms with being incredibly hypocritical. Addressing issues it's ignored for sometimes it's entire lifetime only now that they are threatened. It's quite disgusting especially since I've been on the other end of begging for help/changes/etc that they ignored.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by InitialLastName »

sickcodebruh wrote: post #91
zzzeek wrote: post #83

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same, but for r/music for praising songs that have fade out endings

Add drum mixes panned from the audience perspective instead of drummer perspective and you’ve got my vote.

How do you know the drummer isn't left-handed?

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Post by iamflimflam1 »

EA-3167 wrote: post #174
anigbrowl wrote: post #124

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More seriously, the other day someone spent significant time and effort trying to convince me that the new version of The Wonder Years featuring a black family was anti-white propaganda by The Jews. If he's a reddit user I'm sure he'd love to mod a sub with such a large community.

I feel like the crazies ranting about "white erasure" are making it harder to criticize these race-reboots on the grounds they should be criticized for: laziness. Mediocre products where the selling point is, "we swapped races, give us points," remain mediocre and are unbelievably lazy compared to what we should see... which is new and interesting things with diversity baked in. Unfortunately the hysterical racists a…

It's extremely hard to take any middle of the road position now. Extremists on either side just won't allow it.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by s1artibartfast »

Maxion wrote: post #21
themaninthedark wrote: post #18

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It sounds to me like there are Top Mods who want to continue the boycott, with others who don't and that Reddit is looking at giving the other mods a path forward. One of the things I have noticed is that the boycott is not from the users but from the mods of the community. Even if the community had a vote, if you want to boycott fine but they are forcing others to go along with with them. So either they are not the…

Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.

I think it is a weird subject for popular vote to begin with.

Every individual already had the option to post or not post, moderate or not moderate. The vote only impacted those who wanted to remain active.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by nickstinemates »

bnralt wrote: post #72
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

They were actually right. This is exactly when Reddit AMA's went from something spectacular to spectacular garbage. They were producing bangers left and right, and what have they done since then?

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Post by wvenable »

bnralt wrote: post #72
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

That's funny because I use this example the opposite of you. AMA's completely changed after Victoria's departure and haven't been the same since. There were weekly high-profile AMAs that got large media coverage and it never went back to that.

Ultimately that protest went no where because there was no end game -- Victoria didn't want her job back. It was just done. End of era.

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