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Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by photonerd »

spazx wrote: post #183
uejfiweun wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they remove old reddit, I'm done. The "new" reddit UI is literally one of my least favorite things in the world. Filled with clutter and ads, requires too many clicks to see what you want to see, low information density... I could go on.

New reddit is the worst. Who even designed it? Every time I accidentally find myself on new reddit UI, I feel like I'm looking through foggy glasses. Over the course of about 20 seconds, I blindly click around, feeling lost and confused, then frustrated, and then I just add "old" to the URL.

I interviewed at Reddit around that time. They showed me what (I didn’t know at the time) was to be the new design & asked me to critique it (UI role).

I.. did not hold back. I was polite, and encouraging, but the myriad of flaws was obvious. They seemed rather put out & defensive.

It was around about them I realized that it was not going to be a good fit.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by photonerd »

hn_thrwn wrote: post #234
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by guywithahat »

tomr75 wrote: post #14
jfasi wrote: post #10

Honestly, good. Protest is fine and good, but what exactly are we protesting for here? The rights of a minority of users to freeride on a platform that gave them ten years of free API access? The right of third party app developers to make practically 100% margin on apps whose backend Reddit pays for? The initial announcement and AMA were ham-fisted, to be sure, but at this point these protests are getting ridiculous…

they are protesting the high/unreasonable API price out of nowhere

You could make the argument that it's a reasonable API price compared to other social media sites. What I really wish is they made a distinction between people signing into Apollo to use the app and Apollo making API calls, although I suppose they're probably trying to push people onto their app to improve ad revenue

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by uoaei »

growingentropy wrote: post #190
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

It's going to sound dumb, but honestly? I filled an rss reader up with some of the best sources I could think of, and am actually really enjoying just quietly taking the world in again, instead of trying to come up with my latest snarky Reddit-friendly quip.

It's difficult to curate that list for me, I want high-quality blogs as well as news. But having ~100 feeds, ~20 of which being "news" each with ~20 posts per day, meant at least 2 hours per day catching up. I quit cold turkey last autumn but want to reinstate it, except with only the folks that post once per day or less.

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Post by sofixa »

hn_thrwn wrote: post #234
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

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Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by sofixa »

rjvir wrote: post #194
spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

> Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. This isn't an accurate extrapolation. In fact it's extrapolating in the opposite direction. The moderators are taking a moral stand against an API policy. But the the actual users of the subreddits never consented to this moral stand. By removing these m…

Most subs did a poll to see what the users think, and for all those I've seen there has been overwhelming support for a blackout.

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Post by buildbot »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #117
thrdbndndn wrote: post #99

Something I want to ask before: I've noticed that some people have made a connection between the decision to effectively shut down Reddit's API and the increasing popularity of LLM/ChatGPT, and it does seem plausible. What's interesting is that Twitter also closed down their API access merely months ago. Are these two occurrences related, or was Twitter's action also a response to ChatGPT/LLM? (Also to be totally fai…

That weird "conspiracy theory" doesn't make any sense. LLMs are trained off a static dump of example data, and it's trivially easy to build a webscraper of Reddit's historical content.

It's trivially easy to build a scraper for the new content too. And I think people really over estimate the relative amount of data reddit has compared to the literal rest of the internet. Like sure, it's nicely categorized and ranked (somewhat), but leaving reddit out of a corpus probably won't drastically effect your final model.

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Post by mise_en_place »

Loveaway wrote: post #128

This is so sad honestly. Like wtf is going on, no apology, no good will, doubling down on the complete moral suicide of Reddit. To push an app no-one ever liked, you know that, but whatever. No-one likes “new” Reddit either, you know that, but whatever. Who’s even gonna use the site after this? Social media zombie sheeple is all that's going to be left. Congrats on your dumb little site, from the front-page of the In…

It was the same with Digg and Slashdot.

Re: Reddit is removing moderators that protest by taking their communities private

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Post by ssnistfajen »

spazx wrote: post #109

Smelled this one coming miles away. Next, they'll hand over fan-built communities to the entities that own the IPs they're dedicated to. Eg. r/starwars to Disney, r/startrek to Viacom/Paramount, etc. Then, old.reddit.com will stop working spontaneously, just like how they toyed with killing mobile browser access to force users to download the app, which they probably will eventually. That's going to be the final push…

Baidu pioneered this exact same sellout strat decades ago. Sad to see Reddit going down the same despicable path.
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